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You're floating the possibility that Joseph left Mary? Divorced her? Even after the Lord appeared to him in a dream (Matthew 1:20, 2:13, and possibly 2:19) and Joseph obeyed? Obviously Joseph knew the Lord and was faithful, and that's all we know about Joseph, really. Joseph probably died...

@Spiritual Israelite You mean as if I haven't? Yeah, a head of stone. <shrug> I mean, to your satisfaction, no, which I get, and acknowledged, but that's all you can really say. Yes you have. <smile> Okay, we think the very same of each other. Cool. Well, anymore, after this, because...

@dad ...but the whole earth, exactly as Jesus says in Matthew 5:5. And yes, we, together, are God's Israel, the household of God. That's exactly what I have been saying, several times over now, the reason being that is exactly as Scripture says Yes, in the greater sense. Good for you...

@dad @Spiritual Israelite Well. Bless both your hearts, then. Heads of stone… But yeah, really, in all seriousness, bless both your hearts. Okay, just a couple of things:

You continue to think I take that passage out of context, when I clearly demonstrated, in Post 306 that it is you who... inadvertently, I guess, although that possibly may not actually be the case... do just that. Plus you have called me a liar numerous times, which is certainly not the case...

@Spiritual Israelite Bless your heart. <smile> But really and truly: Bless your heart. Grace and peace to you.

Continued from above... No, God must choose who is to be conformed to the image of His Son, which He did before the foundation of the world, according to His ~ not our ~ will, as Paul wrote in Ephesians 1:4-5, and we must be born again of the Spirit to enter or even see the Kingdom of God, as...

Okay, getting back to you, now; sorry for the delay... No, our choice is evidence, even to ourselves, that we have been born again of the Holy Spirit. God saves sinners. Salvation if of the Lord. We do not... cannot... save ourselves by doing anything, even choosing God, which we will never...

It's not a description, per se, of what being dead in sin means, and was not meant that way; it's just a statement that if someone is dead, he or she is dead, and therefore ~ and this has to be understood in the proper context, which is not hard, but you will probably not do, not because you...

Even though I did. <smile> More than once. No, what it's "a sign" of, SI, is your absolute recalcitrance. No you're not. No need anyway. You're just... yeah, recalcitrant is a pretty good word for you. It's just very poor. And that's in addition to your... well, online, anyway...

Now, you, dad, I'll continue to respond to... <smile> For now, at least... <smile> Not a warning or anything, just sayin'... <smile> But I don't have as much patience as the Lord... yet. So, again, just sayin'... <smile> I'll get back to you soon. Grace and peace to you.

Not even reading any more, here SI. No disrespect intended. No need to keep going through... or at least trying to... the same things over and over and over again. And to endure... <sigh> ...the disrespect, and anger, and mean-spiritedness, and bitterness, which are all totally uncalled for...

<SIGH> Right. See above. <smile> That's exactly what I say to you, SI. Although I don't mean it in the mean-spiritedness you do. Oh, my. We're not talking about physical death; at least not me. There are a lot of dead people walking around and with us right now, spiritually speaking...

I'd call it an admonition, but yeah, I'll accept 'warning,' if meant along the same lines. I'll just say this, SI, that even a preacher, in preaching in a Christian church, so presumably to believers, knows that there are people in the congregation... even though we may not be able to tell who...

You know, I'm not being coy (though you will almost surely think or say I am), but dead is dead. <smile> There is no ambiguity. None. The latter, in need of a physician (the Physician, in this case), certainly, without which he or she cannot be made well. But I'm glad you say "condition of...

Out of all this, I'm going to pull out one little thing... for two reasons: 1) because so much of what you ask, say, assert, whatever... I've directly addressed over and over again, and 2) because it's a microcosm of this whole discussion: I didn't demand anything; far be it from me to do that...

No I'm not... I agree... <smile> Ah! There it is: "develop an unbelieving heart." That is NOT what the text says, SI, and you know it. Or, if you don't, wow. No, the unbelieving heart is not "developed," as if it were once believing and then at some point unbelieving. It is a warning, I...

It does... if, dad, if, you mean 'pedigree' not in the sense of ethnicity, but rather through the promise, through the child of the promise, Isaac. Well yeah, me too. Israel is not everyone... and not even all those who are ethnically Jewish. Is this not what I have said? It is... No, the...

<sigh> Still falling on concrete ears... <smile>... 3 of 3: You, said that, SI. You said it. And my full quote, in response to your saying they "couldn't help it," was: "So, "couldn't help it..." I mean, in a certain sense I guess you might say that. Again, your focus is on the will instead...

2 of 3... We've talked about that. SI, like it or not, at any one time, we are all ~ all ~ children of the devil. If you could bring yourself to actually digest what Paul says in Ephesians 2:1-3, you would not continue ~ over and over again ~ asking me to address that. By nature, we are all...