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  1. Hillsage

    Does the Bible contradict itself? - Reader Poll (and discussion)

    Quote me your verses in Youngs Literal Translation. 1 for each would be fine.
  2. Hillsage

    Does the Bible contradict itself? - Reader Poll (and discussion)

    @St. SteVen sent a 'laughing out loud' emoji to my post. I gathered that he understood correctly what I was saying. But I am still concerned with you. MAT 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written/GRAPHO, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word/RHEMA that proceedeth out of...
  3. Hillsage

    Does the Bible contradict itself? - Reader Poll (and discussion)

    I believe the closest God came to letting anyone claim anything written was personally from GOD, was when Jesus wrote in the dirt. And he was probably writing down their stone-able secret sins. And they 'damned' sure weren't going to tell anyone was written when Jesus looked at them. I...
  4. Hillsage

    Does the Bible contradict itself? - Reader Poll (and discussion)

    Of course. But it was only 'man written'. But it was in reference two a couple of stone tablets.....which were broken. Pretty sure no one has a piece of that 'written' word from the hand of God. :jest:
  5. Hillsage

    Does the Bible contradict itself? - Reader Poll (and discussion)

    - Why would that be possible? :contemplate: That's like asking; Can 'the church' of Jesus himself, contradict itself? Hell yes!!! lfh REFORM DOCTRINE: Arminian doctrine, and Patristic Universalism can all be supported by scripture. It depends which way you view things. The...
  6. Hillsage

    If the punishment for sin is eternal conscious torment, did Jesus pay the price?

    You still have never quoted one scripture to defend your position. Your 'generalization based comment' on chapter 15 was decimated by my #15 Post. Quote one verse to support your 'generalization' which simply reveals a poorly indoctrinated OPINION. Support for your view does not exist in that...
  7. Hillsage

    Antichrist vs Exorcist Debate: Who is the REAL Christ? | Ammon Hillman & Bob Larson

    I am now of the persuasion that if you sold out to the government of man for a 501c exemption, you immediately gave up being being a "church" who can say we are truly "free and free indeed" to be led of the 'holy spirit of Christ in you', or 'the Holy Spirit of God upon you'. I had it easier...
  8. Hillsage

    Antichrist vs Exorcist Debate: Who is the REAL Christ? | Ammon Hillman & Bob Larson

    If 'free will' was commented on in the video, I guess I missed that too, unless that was just a side comment. I guess you did make a short comment. It was tough to watch because of the all the adversarial and argumentativeness. CC couldn't keep up, way too much. I felt like the moderator...
  9. Hillsage

    Antichrist vs Exorcist Debate: Who is the REAL Christ? | Ammon Hillman & Bob Larson

    Your thread caught my attention when you first posted it. But I thought I'd just wait and see what happened. Then I decided to check out the video, but didn't watch very much before deciding I'd wait a little longer to hear those who did watch it. Well now I have watched it all. And I am...
  10. Hillsage

    If the punishment for sin is eternal conscious torment, did Jesus pay the price?

    This has nothing to do with the moral law of God under the law of Moses. No one here is promoting sin of any kind. As for what SteVen posted I will just back him up with more scripture you and Jack need to read IN CONTEXT. 1Cor 10: 14-33 1CO 10:14 Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from...
  11. Hillsage

    If the punishment for sin is eternal conscious torment, did Jesus pay the price?

    I disagree and suggest you read all of this chapter in context. Along with another scripture from Galatians. ACT 15:1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved. 2 When therefore Paul and...
  12. Hillsage

    If the punishment for sin is eternal conscious torment, did Jesus pay the price?

    I am coming from the NT and the NEW COVENANT. You never dealt with my NT verses OR with the TEMPORAL vs ETERNAL forgiveness point I was addressing with them. Please do that, next time. And as for your OT/old covenant scripture above. Read the verse IN CONTEXT as to who it even applied to...
  13. Hillsage

    If the punishment for sin is eternal conscious torment, did Jesus pay the price?

    Very happy to know that. You gotta go on not sinning, for what? For the 'eternal' consequence of sin, which was paid for by Jesus on the cross, for all? Or do you have to 'not go on sinning', for the 'temporal' consequence of sin here and now? Sin where , as a believer, you will still 'reap...
  14. Hillsage

    If the punishment for sin is eternal conscious torment, did Jesus pay the price?

    If the TITLE of this thread is the question, then the answer is NO! Jesus is not suffering eternal conscious torment. Same logical answer, for the same logical reason. :Happy:
  15. Hillsage

    One Baptism. - What is it?

    For me it wasn't that I didn't want water baptism. At 22. I was just 'born again' for 6 months, before receiving the baptism from the Holy Spirit (and speaking in the prayer tongue from my holy born again spirit. 1Cor 14:14). My experience before that point was, I was sprinkled as a Roman...
  16. Hillsage

    One Baptism. - What is it?

    I struggled with that verse for years before coming to my present belief. I posted a abbreviated part of my conclusion on post #20.
  17. Hillsage

    One Baptism. - What is it?

    I honestly don't know if you are being serious with that statement above. Are you? There's definitely more than two baptisms. And no one seems to understand another baptism in scripture either. Except for me, in my opinion, of course. :Broadly: 1CO 15:29 Otherwise, what do people mean by...
  18. Hillsage

    One Baptism. - What is it?

    That's what happened in Acts 10:44. When Peter was preaching the gospel and they received the baptism from the Holy Spirit of God and spoke in tongues FIRST. Then Peter commanded them to "be baptized in the name of JESUS CHRIST". The spirit in every human gives life to that person. It...
  19. Hillsage

    One Baptism. - What is it?

    Is this 'a baptism' that even pertains to us...or is it a baptism that pertains to Jesus? EPH 4:3-6 eager to maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. 4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call, 5 one Lord, one faith, one...
  20. Hillsage

    Was Jesus a Christian?

    I checked, and you're right. I know I'm not a "Muslim", "Agnostic", "Atheist". "Other Faith" must not allow access to whatever? So I will leave my ball in the court of the court owners and explain my decision to true Rule Maker' on the day I am in HIS COURT. :pray: