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  1. Hillsage

    When exactly do you become a Christian?

    NOT TRUE. When God made the FIRST ADAM out of dirt in west EDEN, He also made a bunch of other humans. Often referred in "THEOLOGY" circles as the PRE ADAMIC RACE. But they haven't got 'their theology' exactly right either IMO. Their view does help explain where CAIN and ABLE got their wives...
  2. Hillsage

    When exactly do you become a Christian?

    Uhh, because their sinful natured bodies have a life force, just like I had before my spirit was BORN AGAIN. Do I still sin? HELL YES!!! Not cussing, simply a fact. So how can I, AND YOU, still sin if we have a 'new spirit' from God dwelling IN our bodies?. Being born a perfect lamb did not...
  3. Hillsage

    When exactly do you become a Christian?

    Wow GG, this is a bigger 'elephant of a post' than I complained to bdavidc about sending. Do you know what the 8 said to the 0? "Tighten your belt." :jest: I am not a dichotamist, I am a trichotomous. Adam was the first son of God. (Luke 3:38). He was created with the christ spirit' in him...
  4. Hillsage

    When exactly do you become a Christian?

    Thanks for two...short...back to back...5 minute apart posts. Both of which prove you just don't get it (harsh) OR you just don't get me (I will hope for the best). I do understand better than the discernment of your 2 posts reveal. I've been on 'declared christian' forums for 30+ years. I...
  5. Hillsage

    When exactly do you become a Christian?

    And just how "holy and blameless" is the Father and Jesus' standard in the "high calling of Christ IN you"? 1PE 1:15 but as he who called you IS holy, BE holy yourselves in all your conduct; ROM 8:3 For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do: sending his own Son in...
  6. Hillsage

    When exactly do you become a Christian?

    That's your OPINION. Not scripture. I told you last time you wrote too much for my interest. You did it again this time. I'll hang out and wait to see if GodsGrace answers first. Last time he answered while I was trying to eat your elephant post. :watching and waiting: After posting my...
  7. Hillsage

    When exactly do you become a Christian?

    I agree I agree with mind will emotions as a general def. for soul. But being formally educated as a Chiropractor, I also recognize that those attributes are all 'non flesh or non material 'functioning-s' of the brain. I like to say that the soul is the source of our 'motivational' life...
  8. Hillsage

    When exactly do you become a Christian?

    You simply wrote too much, but I would like to pursue this subject with someONE. Not with a number of takers, but if you're interested in a bite at a time. Enough views were presented initially to consider this as an unexpected elephant...to me.. I've never really even thought of this topic...
  9. Hillsage

    When exactly do you become a Christian?

    Thank you for picking up on that comment. Long ago I stumbled on that verse in Galatians. It became part of a more expanded understanding of SALVATION. Simply, I and many others believe that we are triune beings and we need salvation in all three parts of our being. The first salvation begins...
  10. Hillsage

    John 6 Was Jesus speaking literally

    I'm truly sorry that you do not have eyes to see, and ears to hear. I know from 21 years of ROMAN indoctrination just how you think and see. Nor have you. And not just to me, but so many others here. Says 'the kettle sg. to a ALL the POTS pl. here'??? :woot: This is the APOLOGETICS forum...
  11. Hillsage

    John 6 Was Jesus speaking literally

    No, you're saying that. I did not. I tell every pastor of every indoctrinated church in town the same thing. "The church that Jesus is building, is the spiritual one, that's under the roof of every 'so called' church building, in town." And 'that church' is those few whose foundation is...
  12. Hillsage

    John 6 Was Jesus speaking literally

    My opinion is; 'The church' began 2,000 years ago, on the day of Pentecost. The Roman church began to influence the Church of the entire world before the apostles even died. That's what the apostle John was speaking prophetically about in his 1st letter. 1JO 2:18 Little children (babes in...
  13. Hillsage

    John 6 Was Jesus speaking literally

    Actually, I agree with you. I'm forgetting which thread I'm in. The last text was meant for the other thread, and I will see if I can delete the Meaningless post.
  14. Hillsage

    When exactly do you become a Christian?

    If being born again defined being "Christian", why weren't the Apostles and disciples of Israel called such for 40 years? Agreed, the bible says none of these things. Correct that's what "scripture" says. What's missing here? Uh, the word CHRISTIAN. This "test" is your OPINION, but not...
  15. Hillsage

    John 6 Was Jesus speaking literally

    I know the sad story. I was raised RC, but never got 'born again' until I was 22. But I'll guarantee you that if I'd died in Viet Nam, I would have been pronounced "going to heaven" just because I got sprinkled as an unbelieving infant. hmn
  16. Hillsage

    When exactly do you become a Christian?

    You ask a very provocative question. I just had to smile at every one's comment to your comment based on 'BEING A CHRISTIAN'. But then, I'm pretty "analytical mentally" too. lfh So hang in there a bit....or.:r.u.n: My first thought after reading this thread, was from a book I bought years...
  17. Hillsage

    John 6 Was Jesus speaking literally

    OSAS BUFFOONERY??? What got saved when you got born again? Was it your 'spirit'? Was it your 'soul'? Or was it your 'body'?
  18. Hillsage

    John 6 Was Jesus speaking literally

    It "limps" because there is too much fundaMENTALism and not enough fundaSPIRITUALism. JOH 6:32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the TRUE/alethinos bread from heaven. 0228 alethinos: truthful I...
  19. Hillsage

    Is God Magnanimous? - (as opposed to tyrannical)

    I don't think anyone can even be anti christ until AFTER they came to know something about 'the christ' while they were members IN THE CHURCH setting. Written 70AD 1JO 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many...