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  1. jeffweeder

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Do not be ridiculous Light. Try answering the question posed. Before we continue in any reasonable dialogue, answer this simple straightforward question...., Has atonement been achieved? Has a death occurred bringing redemption? Heb 9 11 But when Christ appeared as a high priest of the good...
  2. jeffweeder

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    No Randy, You are not hanging out with the wrong people brother. We love you and the truth is always going to hurt. WPM is your best friend IMHO; he is honest as the day is long. Please Brother be careful what you say as some have entertained Angels without knowing it. I may be wrong, but I do...
  3. jeffweeder

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I wish every question was that easy. Is there any other way to answer those questions? Kindergarten stuff, breast milk.
  4. jeffweeder

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    1. Jesus hanging on the cross 2. Jesus hanging on the cross 3. Jesus hanging on the cross 4. What Jesus did on the cross ...for us. 5. Jesus own testimony and life 6. Jesus risen life from our death sentence, anointed the Holy of Holies forevermore for us.
  5. jeffweeder

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    Why did you leave it so long to start reading the NT Keraz? :D
  6. jeffweeder

    What and when is the rapture Part 2

    You are a real blessing brother, thank you for understanding me, gives me confidence....no stopping me now :phew:
  7. jeffweeder

    Why I'm Premil

    The lengths people will go to...to protect their theories.
  8. jeffweeder

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Exactly right. 5 But as to the suitable times and the precise seasons and dates, brethren, you have no necessity for anything being written to you. 2 For you yourselves know perfectly well that the day of the [return of the] Lord will come [as unexpectedly and suddenly] as a thief in the...
  9. jeffweeder

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    BINGO. Great point. That should settle the matter.
  10. jeffweeder

    What and when is the rapture Part 2

    I have already told that is not what I was saying. You continue to misrepresent me Why? Can a mod please assist. Others had no problem discerning what I was saying in that post below. Your reading of Zech 14 IMHO does not line up with the Lords NT teaching about the end times...simple as...
  11. jeffweeder

    What and when is the rapture Part 2

    You have no idea what I am trying to say. Jesus stated OT scripture that had been fulfilled at his first coming..., Matthew 1:22 All this took place that it might be fulfilled which the Lord had spoken through the prophet, Matthew 2:17 Then was fulfilled what was spoken by the prophet...
  12. jeffweeder

    What and when is the rapture Part 2

    Thank you, I agree he is. Does the Lord give Reference to any OT scripture in the above? That was the point of my former post
  13. jeffweeder

    What and when is the rapture Part 2

    I am not denying that at all. Stop misrepresenting me. Try reading it again after you pray for discernment. Try taking the Lords own word regarding his own coming more seriously rather than relying on your own discernment of OT passages.
  14. jeffweeder

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Thanks WPM for pointing these things out to Cady.
  15. jeffweeder

    What and when is the rapture Part 2

    Dream on Davy...Bro'. Nobody has taught me anything about Amill. I came to that conclusion all by myself when I first came to the Lord over 40 years ago. I read my bible before I went to Church for the first time...best thing I have ever done as I am unbiased. Thats how I formulated my end...
  16. jeffweeder

    What and when is the rapture Part 2

    Jesus said that Heaven and earth pass away at his coming and Peter said he was looking for a NHNE when that happened. So you are wrong..., Matt 24 35 Heaven and earth [as now known] will pass away, but My words will not pass away. 36 “But of that [exact] day and hour no one knows, not even the...
  17. jeffweeder

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Lol, there is no excuse. Deal with the scripture I commented on.... and backed up with those others. Cady and Zoe said, II Thessalonians 1:7-10 -- Absent is any kind of hint that the Lord's vengeance is ubiquitous. Paul has not focused on everyone; he has directed his focus on "those who...
  18. jeffweeder

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    This doesn't seem to be an accurate summary..., The DOTL comes like a thief also. 1 Thessalonians 5:1 The Day of the Lord Now as to the times and dates, brothers and sisters, you have no need for anything to be written to you. 1 Thessalonians 5:2 For you yourselves know perfectly well that...
  19. jeffweeder

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I think you are misunderstanding. They were not to be unsettled at some alleged letter that was supposed to come from them regarding the DOL had already come. Now in regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to meet Him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to...
  20. jeffweeder

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Hi Davy, Your more guilty of what you accuse me of doing :) Deal with the scripture I commented on. 5 This is a positive proof of the righteous judgment of God [a sign of His fair verdict], so that you will be considered worthy of His kingdom, for which indeed you are suffering. 6 For after...