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So you agree that Jesus has made atonement once and for all? Do You agree Jesus has entered the most Holy place having achieved Eternal redemption through his own blood? How many weeks did God decree for these things to happen? If even one of those 6points is seen to be fulfilled, then they all...

Hi Truth7t7 I thought you didnt believe in a thousand years after the second coming. :confused: So when do you believe the non believers have their resurrection? And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who...

Yes I believe in a bodily resurrection of those 2 groups at the end. However the first resurrection refers to this in Jn 5..., 24 “I assure you and most solemnly say to you, the person who hears My word [the one who heeds My message], and believes and trusts in Him who sent Me, has (possesses...

But our assurance of not being hurt by the second death is not based on a physical resurrection but a spiritual one in Jn 5.

Exactly. What does every single reference regarding the Lords second coming allude to? Premill or Amill scenario?

You are forgetting that 70 weeks were decreed for Daniels people to bring in Atonement..., 24 “Seventy weeks have been decreed for your people and your holy city, to finish the transgression, to make an end of sin, to make atonement for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to...

Post 41 is where and what you avoided after you said try me with some sacred text. :tiphat:

Thanks Bro'. that's a relief. Glad someone understands. :Agreed:

You are misunderstanding this IMHO. 3 While they are saying, “Peace and safety [all is well and secure!]” then [in a moment unforeseen] destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains on a woman with child, and they will absolutely not escape [for there will be no way to escape the...

Think about what happened to most of the Apostles and how much Christian's have suffered under Nero etc etc etc in giving their lives.

If Rev was written before AD 70, then why didn't John address the Church in Jerusalem? 1 This is the revelation of Jesus Christ [His unveiling of the divine mysteries], which God [the Father] gave to Him to show to His bond-servants (believers) the things which must soon take place [in their...

Guaranteed to test your perseverance when it doesn't happen.

Thats the opposite to what I am saying. Jesus in Jn 5 is promising those who believe in him that they will not come into judgment. The time NOW IS FOR THIS. Jn 5 24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into...

:eek: I was taking about Rev 20 and Jn 5 see post 2872 The first resurrection of Rev 20 cannot be physical as Jn 5 states the time for not coming into judgment was already a fact without the necessity for a physical resurrection. Do you understand what I am saying now? So, in order for John not...

I was pointing out that the first resurrection is not a physical one according to Jn 5

Peter had his mind opened by Lord, was taught by the Lord and his rock-solid confession was a means for building the Church. Surely, he wouldn't fall short concerning the Jewish hope when he himself is looking forward to his promise. You have the Apostle John and Jesus contradicting himself in...

It's clearly the end gift wrapped in a second coming context, with one thing for us to look forward to, a NHNE. Clearly the ungodly suffer not only judgment but total destruction. 7 But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment...

Creates a lot of disorder a lot of the time.

What Jesus taught is perfect. Listen to him and your Amill 7days a week. [Ronald ] And their is only one reason why you should hold to it- it is the most biblical without having to reinterpret Scripture, to pigeon hole Scripture to fit your agenda!] Premill does this with Rev 20 when they...

This is not my study Randy. Thanks for reading.