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From above.... They are not. See directly above. Individuals within every tongue, tribe, and nation are coming to the Lord. And this is proof of Satan's absolute inability to deceive the nations; he is bound from doing so. Now, is he able to exert some degree of influence in the world? Well...

Well no, it seemed from what you said before that you didn't agree. <chuckles>... Does anyone on this board actually hope any other person doesn't or won't agree with him or her? I... don't think so... <smile> Then why do we still sin, Zao, at least from time to time? Sin has not been...

An interesting post, for sure. I'm going to pick out just a few things and comment, or ask you about them, or... Well, you'll see: 1. "How can you conclude that Satan's works are "his ability to deceive the nations" despite the Word of God having told you that it is created human beings that...

I totally respect your opinion. <smile> I just refuted the first two alleged "contradictions" on my part in Post #998. Feel free to answer to that at any time; I'm sure that would be... interesting. Because right now, you're just saying stuff without even attempting to back any of your...

Well, right, because there are no passages that "take the opposite." Are you saying Scripture contradicts itself? Surely not... Okay, I'll take these two, and then we can talk about the other "hundreds" if you want... <chuckles> Luke 13:3... I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too...

<chuckles> No, that's not what I'm saying... <smile> But how God has chosen/decided to do things is... well, it is what it is. He's God. Grace and peace to you.

This is true; Paul says the following: "...it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, Who has mercy. For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, 'For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show My power in you, and that My name might be proclaimed in all the earth'... God...

In one sense, this is true; God does give mercy to all, at the very least giving them life. This is what we call God's common grace, meaning this measure of grace is given by God to all people. However, when we talk about God's saving mercy, His salvific grace, this is His particular grace...

Right, may have mercy on them all. But He obviously doesn't; Paul has just said ~ quoting Moses, but really God Himself ~ "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” And Paul goes on to say, "He has mercy on whomever He wills, and He hardens...

Any of us could be wrong, yes... But again, if you are a Gentile believer in Christ, then you are living proof of Satan's being bound. Now, it is worth saying also that if you are a Jewish believer in Christ, then of course that makes you no less a Christian. We are all one in Christ Jesus...

Revelation 20 The proof that Satan has been bound... (given that you are a Gentile) ...is you. The fact that you have been born again and are thus in Christ is proof postive that Satan is bound from deceiving the nations. Is it possible that Satan could be bound in this way but still have...

Okay, well, yeah, me either; there is no debate here. What is there to debate between you and me? Okay, fine. All good, yeah? Well, not to make this about me in any way, but I was just offering a little exhortation, really. If we're going to claim to be Christians, then maybe we should act...

You're missing the point. Points, actually. Grace and peace to you, WPM. Why? Because you don't think anyone should be publically rebuked? Is that not being a bit hypocritical? Hmmm, well, okay, so have you. We should all take the high road, yeah? But even so, not doing so in a...

You mean because you don't condone or accept heresy? That's not it... <smile> I'm certainly not "offended" by anything, but I am, as I said, often astounded by the manner in which some (supposed) Christians speak to others, whether or not they are Christians. Aside from that, to what you...

Well now that's just weird. <smile> Grace and peace to you.

Well, he isn't "enforcing" ...executing, exerting... that control as people think that control would or should look. Which certainly can give us the impression that He is not in control. But... His thoughts are not our thoughts, His ways not our ways. What we do know is, no purpose of His can...

Apologies to everyone on behalf of myself and Spiritual Israelite for taking up so much bandwidth here... <GRIN> Grace and peace to you all!

No, but I don't believe that man's salvation depends on his choosing. Which is exactly what Paul says in Romans 9:16. Nope. <smile> I mean, yes, I will deny that, because... it is clearly not true in "my doctrine." <smile> "For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but...

This is the general call of the Gospel. And, we can say that He "requires all people to choose whether to accept it or not," but His granting of mercy and compassion does not depend on our choosing (on human will or exertion, as Paul puts it in Romans 9:16), but on God, Who has mercy, and... He...

This can clearly be seen in Genesis 3, but more explicitly, David says, "Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me" (Psalm 51:5). In the New Testament (as if that makes any difference, really) ~ and this too has been cited many times ~ Paul says in Ephesians...