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    "THE WORDS...ARE SPIRIT" version of understanding scripture.

    And just to say, oh dear, why would I call Paul a liar? Rest assured I do not. But I think you probably assume we have to wait to physically die to see the Lord face to face...? I question that. Didn't Job see Him face to face, and Moses, and Jacob? I take it to mean being one with Him...
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    "THE WORDS...ARE SPIRIT" version of understanding scripture.

    Christian cults/sects/false ministries also quote scriptures.....does that mean we are to regard the bible (or their favourite verses) with suspicion? The devil loves to discredit the things of God so that we'll be tempted to throw the baby out with the bathwater. It just depends on what the...
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    "THE WORDS...ARE SPIRIT" version of understanding scripture.

    There is the matter of growth too, I believe, which does require humility in order to grow and be willing to be corrected and change course when necessary. The bible says if we think we know, we do not yet know as we ought (1 Cor 8:2). That should give us pause to consider. God gives grace to...
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    "THE WORDS...ARE SPIRIT" version of understanding scripture.

    Aren't we supposed to compare spiritual with spiritual? (1 Cor 2). And Col 1:9 says to be filled with the knowledge of His will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding. God's ways and thoughts are higher than ours. There is so much we don't yet know or understand. Just think of when Paul...
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    When Jesus "took away" your sin, did He leave behind the source, the sin nature?

    Weren't these "antichrists" that John was talking about, who didn't believe in the Son?.....if ye have not the Son ye have not the Father either. All kinds of people might hang around the church for a while, like they did Jesus, for any number of reasons......out of curiosity, to see what the...
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    When Jesus "took away" your sin, did He leave behind the source, the sin nature?

    Oy vey brother....I hardly know where to start and I haven't even read your entire post.. Faith without works is dead, no? It's kind of a two sided coin, we need to balance all one side against the other side, so to speak. There needs to be some fruit, else the barren and fruitless tree is in...
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    When Jesus "took away" your sin, did He leave behind the source, the sin nature?

    I'm not there yet either. But there do seem to be some good witnesses. I've been reading some of Oswald Chambers' and Andrew Murray's writings, in case you would like to check them out. And the bible seems to point to it all over the place once we start to see it. Being one with...
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    "THE WORDS...ARE SPIRIT" version of understanding scripture.

    Well then you have probably missed feeding on some richer fare than just what is on the surface. Last I read we need the Holy Spirit to lead us into all truth.....because truth IS spiritual.
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    When Jesus "took away" your sin, did He leave behind the source, the sin nature?

    We've tussled over this many times before, but there is no point in arguing with someone ad nauseum. We are warned and admonished throughout the entire bible. What do you think falling away even means, brother? Do you think apostates are going to inherit eternal life? And please don't try to...
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    "THE WORDS...ARE SPIRIT" version of understanding scripture.

    Look past the superficial meaning. Like when Jesus was talking about leaven, was He really talking about bread? He admonished the disciples for taking Him too literally. As for certainty........even Paul had these things to say: Phl 3:11-12 if by any means I might attain unto the...
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    When Jesus "took away" your sin, did He leave behind the source, the sin nature?

    People always have to overthink and twist things to justify their OSAS belief, unfortunately.
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    When Jesus "took away" your sin, did He leave behind the source, the sin nature?

    So sorry your mother was being so callous with you, that is sad. Sounds like you might have been trying to escape from things at home and maybe even trying to find what was lacking at home among your friends. Is it possible your friend is just under the weather, or not feeling up to...
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    When Jesus "took away" your sin, did He leave behind the source, the sin nature?

    Those "pop-up" things I consider to be inadvertent/unintentional sins, not deliberate/wilful.....and that they do come from the flesh/old man. When someone is in the spirit that will not happen. I think you handled it right with the Lord in acknowledging it and repenting. Maybe let your...
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    "THE WORDS...ARE SPIRIT" version of understanding scripture.

    Oh but those fish do have meaning beyond just being food for the body.
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    "THE WORDS...ARE SPIRIT" version of understanding scripture.

    It does seem to me that Scott has already answered your question. Spiritual discernment.....testing by the Holy Spirit. The example you gave is not about higher things, but is foundational/elementary....Christianity 101, although there may be a bit deeper lesson embedded even in that, since...
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    "THE WORDS...ARE SPIRIT" version of understanding scripture.

    Amen, yes indeed brother. And when we are focused on what is true, then we'll be able to discern the counterfeit angel of light, just like how they teach bank employees to tell counterfeit money by being very familiar with what real money looks and feels like. I think a couple more keys as...
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    "THE WORDS...ARE SPIRIT" version of understanding scripture.

    By all means, let's throw out all that is antichrist brother, of course......they are not building on the right foundation. I'm especially grieved for the younger generation coming up who have been deceived and led astray and are not being taught right by the older ones. I pray the Lord will...
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    When Jesus "took away" your sin, did He leave behind the source, the sin nature?

    Sins are sins. But God treats wilful sins differently from inadvertent sins. Wilful sins are those things which are within the person's power to not commit, such as committing murder or embezzling, lying in a job interview, etc. whereas inadvertent sins have more to do with personal...
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    "THE WORDS...ARE SPIRIT" version of understanding scripture.

    We just need to be careful not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. I've both seen and experienced how people so easily will persecute and misjudge things they don't yet understand, like the religious leaders of Jesus' day did with Him. It's humbling to remember we only know in part.
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    When Jesus "took away" your sin, did He leave behind the source, the sin nature?

    Jesus "taking away" our sin.......I don't take that to necessarily be in a literal sense, but spiritual, in a manner of speaking kind of way. It means our sins are remitted/forgiven....like a debt. Sometimes the Lord can and will literally remove a specific sin or sins in His wisdom and by...