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  1. PinSeeker

    Scripture Revelation That Many Throw Out About the Future 1,000 Years Reign by Christ

    No. All of humanity in its ~ each one in his/her ~ natural state. Adam was the federal head of the human race. Read Romans 5:12 and you should see that: "...just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned." I agree...
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    The Second Death Destroys Man's False Amill Theory

    Yeah, you being one of them. <smile> I do, because you keep saying the same silly things over and over again. Asking the same questions, raising the same objections, making the same "points"... On and on and on... Grace and peace to you.
  3. PinSeeker

    The Second Death Destroys Man's False Amill Theory

    It's not about faith ~ the assurance (from God) of things hoped for, the conviction (by the Spirit) of things not seen~ faith is the vehicle through which we are saved (and being saved). It's about the heart and its natural deadness in sin, which means they are naturally at enmity with God ~...
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    The Second Death Destroys Man's False Amill Theory

    There are a lot of ways Christians can stray or even depart but still be kept by the power of the Spirit. The heart is deceptive above all things, as Jeremiah says. If a person has truly been converted by the Spirit, given new life in Christ, it will never be revoked or rescinded, but we can...
  5. PinSeeker

    The Second Death Destroys Man's False Amill Theory

    Well I would say it's not so... well, simplistic. <smile> And it's definitely not backwards, which... how you make it out to be, Davy. Not backwards in the sense of "dumb" or "stupid," but in the sense of inverting the order of some things, especially our obedience and good works in relation...
  6. PinSeeker

    Scripture Revelation That Many Throw Out About the Future 1,000 Years Reign by Christ

    LOL! In speaking of the elect of God, SI, Paul uses Jacob and Esau as examples of... in the larger sense, all those elect of God (Jacob) and all those not elect of God (Esau), and he says, "though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad ~ in order that God’s purpose of...
  7. PinSeeker

    Scripture Revelation That Many Throw Out About the Future 1,000 Years Reign by Christ

    Right, well, we don't know how many, of course, only that it's an innumerable multitude. But... not everyone. So, yes, because it's true. <smile> You do understand that the very definition of 'remnant' is less than the whole, right? God has preserved for Himself a remnant of the whole of...
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    Scripture Revelation That Many Throw Out About the Future 1,000 Years Reign by Christ

    Romans 2:3-8... "Do you suppose, O man ~ you who judge those who practice such things and yet do them yourself ~ that you will escape the judgment of God? Or do you presume on the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience, not knowing that God’s kindness is meant to lead you to...
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    Scripture Revelation That Many Throw Out About the Future 1,000 Years Reign by Christ

    I'm well aware of your thinking on this, Davy. We disagree. Not the world, really but this present age age. These last days. It will come to an end when the fullness of the Gentiles has been brought in to Israel and the partial hardening that is now on Israel is removed. No, the thousand...
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    The Second Death Destroys Man's False Amill Theory

    LOL! Sigh... That's actually what I'm saying. What matters is that we inherit ~ at birth, even conception, as David said of himself ~ not the particular sin, but the spiritual condition of being at enmity with God that Adam took on (and Eve) at the time of the Fall. So no matter how the sin...
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    The Second Death Destroys Man's False Amill Theory

    Only in your wrongheaded view, SI. Because it's dumb. It would be a dumb thing to say. The first cause is God, yes. But man, because of the new spirit God has given him, then chooses correctly. Yes, thank God that God does do that, because otherwise no one would be saved. Who then can be...
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    The Second Death Destroys Man's False Amill Theory

    Ah, "kept," SI. I mean, we can say "brought back," but we should understand that in the sense of being kept in Christ by the power of the Holy Spirit, and because of His ongoing work in us. And that can be found in all four Gospels, all of John's other letters and Revelation, all of Paul's...
  13. PinSeeker

    Scripture Revelation That Many Throw Out About the Future 1,000 Years Reign by Christ

    Well, God elected who He elected. As Creator, he has every right to, as Paul says, to have mercy and compassion on whomever He wills, and also to harden whomever He wills, to make out some/many for honorable use and some/many for dishonorable use. I can certainly understand some thinking that...
  14. PinSeeker

    The Second Death Destroys Man's False Amill Theory

    Of course. No, I... acknowledge... that a Christian ~ if he/she is truly a heart-regenerate Christian ~ will not... stay departed from the living God, that God may allow him/her to stray for a time and fall away, but will eventually bring him/her back... "go out searching for him/her and bring...
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    The Second Death Destroys Man's False Amill Theory

    What Adam did, Davy, plunged all of creation into this fallen state. We inherit the proclivity to sin, not the particular sin itself. Yes, Adam represented the entire human race, And the judgment that was placed on him and Eve is the judgment we now are all under. There are two types of...
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    Scripture Revelation That Many Throw Out About the Future 1,000 Years Reign by Christ

    No, the elect are those elect of God, chosen before the foundation of the world to be conformed to the image of Christ (Ephesians 1:4-5). The elect are exempt from the "lake of fire" of Revelation 20 and will not be subject to that "second death." Hmmm... hasn't happened yet, correct, but...
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    The Second Death Destroys Man's False Amill Theory

    I'm not sure if this is a question, or just a statement, and whichever is the case I'm not sure what you mean. What I was saying was that... some posters... seem prone to taking one's comments and making them into something else entirely, into some caricature of what they are, which is such a...
  18. PinSeeker

    The Second Death Destroys Man's False Amill Theory

    I think, Jay, it's what we often refer to in political circles as... "spin." <smile> Grace and peace to you.
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    The Second Death Destroys Man's False Amill Theory

    LOL! Well, at least that's a bit better than the "nonexistent" thing you have said before... LOL! I didn't say you did. You didn't address it at all before now, and only in response to me pointing it out in Acts 13:48. Ohhhh, I think you should pay attention to what I'm actually saying...
  20. PinSeeker

    The Second Death Destroys Man's False Amill Theory

    Fair enough. It's a little bit ironic that your reasoning, "considering other things written in the same book," is at least on that point the same as mine. That's why I have referred to a number of things throughout Hebrews (in addition to other passages elsewhere). To all this, I will say...