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  1. keithr

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    I don't think he would, because that would not answer or even address the question!
  2. keithr

    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    That does not mean that it is not a parable. A parable is simply a fictitious story from which a moral or religious lesson may be drawn. There is no rule that people mentioned in it can't be given a name, or that references to real places can't be used. Consider these parables: Luke 12:16-21...
  3. keithr

    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    See post #199. See post #184.
  4. keithr

    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    No worries! Neither you or I will burn in hell for eternity. God doesn't try to frighten us into to loving Him, because that won't work - it wouldn't be true love, it would just be obedience and respect based on fear. We love God because He loved us first. 1 John 4:18-19 WEB (18) There is...
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    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    I think you'll find that I have quoted the Bible in my posts much more than you have. But lets not squabble: 2 Timothy 2:14 WEB (14) Remind them of these things, charging them in the sight of the Lord, that they don’t argue about words, to no profit, to the subverting of those who hear. 2...
  6. keithr

    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    Still lacking the ability to understand simple things, I see. I quoted a footnote from a Bible. I was not claiming to be an expert on Greek. The note may have been written by the Chief Translator of the Updated American Standard Version (published February 7, 2022). As a translator I would...
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    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    Why are you asking me to explain why different Bible translations translate the way they do? I am not a Jehovah's Witness so I am not an expert on the New World Translation which you quoted above, but nevertheless it is in agreement with the UASV note: UASV note: The Greek noun (κόλασις...
  8. keithr

    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    Again, you too were not careful enough in reading what I wrote! My post was about the meaning of the Greek word that is translated as "punishment", not on the word translated as "everlasting" and "eternal". The UASV correctly translates the same Greek word into the same English word both times...
  9. keithr

    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    No I am not a expert on Greek. But then I didn't claim to be. Read what I wrote more carefully instead of jumping to wrong conclusions. I wrote, "Interestingly the UASV+ comments", i.e. I was pointing out what the translaters of the updated version of the American Standard Version added as a...
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    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    Interestingly the UASV+ comments that even though they translate the Greek work kolasis as punishment, that it actually means death: Matthew 25:46 UASV+ (46) And these will go away into eternal punishment,N4 but the righteous into eternal life." N4 The Greek noun (κόλασις kolasis) refers to...
  11. keithr

    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    I did not admit it is literal. What a ridiculous comment. Read what I wrote again - you don't seem to understand anything! What do you think "presented it in signs" means? Other translations say "he signified it", i.e. he made it known by signs, or symbols. Barnes Notes comments: And...
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    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    That is a deliberate lie, and you know it (or are very stupid). You must be very ignorant of the Book of Revelation if you didn't know that it was written using symbolic language. Just do a simple Google search on "book of revelation summary" and it will say "It uses symbolic language to...
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    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    Luke 17:29 WEB (29) but in the day that Lot went out from Sodom, it rained fire and sulfur from the sky, and destroyed them all. 2 Peter 2:6 WEB (6) and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, having made them an example to those who would live in...
  14. keithr

    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    Most of the Book of Revelation is symbolic. John declares so in the very first verse: Revelation 1:1 UASV+ (1) The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place; and he sent his angel and presented it in signs through him to his...
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    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    2 Peter 3:7 WEB (7) But the heavens that now exist, and the earth, by the same word have been stored up for fire, being reserved against the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men. Revelation 17:8 WEB (8) The beast that you saw was, and is not; and is about to come up out of the abyss...
  16. keithr

    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    So you think that the "good news of great joy which will be to all the people" (Luke 2:10) is that our loving, merciful and gracious God, who planned everything before the creation of the universe (Acts 15:18), is planning to intensely torture billions of humans, the vast majority of mankind...
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    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    You will too, eventually - we all will! God is love (1 John 4:8). Exodus 34:5-7 (WEB): (5) Yahweh descended in the cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed Yahweh’s name. (6) Yahweh passed by before him, and proclaimed, “Yahweh! Yahweh, a merciful and gracious God, slow to anger, and...
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    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    John 3:16-17 WEB (16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life. (17) For God didn’t send his Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world should be saved through him. John 12:48 WEB (48)...
  19. keithr

    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    No. Do you? I believe that you are mistaken. You're not taking the passage in context - Luke 16:13-14 (WEB): (13) No servant can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to one, and despise the other. You aren’t able to serve God and...
  20. keithr

    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    Romans 6:23 WEB (23) For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. John 3:15-16 UASV+ (15) so that everyone believing in him will have eternal life." (16) For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, in order that whoever...