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I agree with your emphasis on walking in the spirit, not empty assertion of being "in Christ", but I agree with their emphasis on trusting in Christ and what that effects for us in terms of our relationship to God (though I wish they would go all the way, and incorporate the remainder of...

@marks I think taking the approach to the issue that I'm suggesting unifies all of the doctrines on justification in Scripture--James 2, Romans 2, etc, etc, etc--WITHOUT sacrificing Ro 5:1, and without having to offer weird, obviously convoluted and dishonest, readings of texts like James 2...

I don't mind waiting, because it really does require serious thought (quite a few years preceded even the ability to formulate the questions), just don't forget about it! lol

@marks Consider also the manner of Jesus in the Book of John : there is a heavy emphasis on "time" (eg, Jn 2 "it is not my time" versus "it is always your time"). It is always time for the ones producing their own righteousness by the flesh (Ro 8:3 "the Law, weakened through the flesh", Gal 3:3...

I was discussing the issue with @marks, and you decided to involve yourself. If you insist on seeing it as a "nothing burger", you are free to disengage.

Yeah, I'm discussing it with another user. I don't know what this has to do with you. You reject the premise, that's fine, go do something else you prefer to do.

Yep. I've been reading it for many years. Romans 14 5One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. 6He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to...

We lived in Miami, he got his pilot's license at Tamiami airport (same place as Mohammad Atta), and told my Mom they were going to use the air planes as missiles, and we told the FBI circa 1997. He was literally a terrorist. He would berate and beat us for reasons we did not even know, and, on...

For different reasons, I actually agree with both sides (Episkopos' views and his opponents' views) LOL

Well, "the one who observes a day observes it as unto the Lord" : no, it is, plainly, not merely addressing the issue of food, but addresses the broader issue of faith by various practices (eating, observing a day, etc). "Both" "camps"? What are the "two" positions (not including yours, which...

Soberxp speaks Chinese as their native language, so there's a language barrier.

@Soyeong I almost forgot about you No, I should've said it differently : I know what people say about it, but there're lots of arguments about it (as with all things), and I haven't studied all of that.

We have different takeaways. Yes, the universal rule for all of life is "each one must be fully convinced in his own mind". Breaking that rule is "sin", and the one who sins "is condemned" (v23). The one who is condemned is not justified. That, together with numerous other verses, created a...

Irrespectively, the guide outlined in v5 is a universal on how to live before the Lord, and breaking it is sin, which, it says, compromises justification (ie, condemns)--that reality was the difficulty making it difficult to settle in to the peace based on the justification by the righteousness...

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 l I'm getting this understanding that after I'm right with God by grace through faith in Christ, there is an expectation that I will be free, and that that involves being motivated forward by hope and joy (even in small matters), and that that is the opposite of being afraid, worrying about my...

And I see Ro 14 as parallel with Paul's expectations of the Galatians--it pictures men who began by grace and faith/the Spirit who are becoming perfect by grace and faith (vv5, 23) and not works of the Law.

That's the difficulty I've been having--balancing the two doctrines. The issue is I can't get around verses like Ro 14:5, 23, but I think they don't conflict with Ro 5:1 if you don't see yourself getting right with Jesus, and obtaining peace, by walking in love and faith, but that what is not...

Yeah, and, again, the entire question of the convo you joined has been as to the substance of the message that is to be believed, bc if it doesn't make sense, there can't be faith in it.

I said a slave (ie, a Jew) and a son (a christian ) work but only onecis accepted and this shows work isn't enough