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  1. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    No. But he did, I think, agree with many of the things Calvin said and wrote. One thing we should not do is reduce Calvin's understanding of the Bible ~ and that of Calvinists ~ to a mere five points. The only reason there is such a thing as "the five points of Calvinism" is because, using...
  2. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Is not the case. I'm a follower of Jesus, and I believe what John Calvin said about Jesus ~ as opposed to Jacobus Arminius ~ was correct. LOL! That they are God's elect entails their knowing Jesus ~ not just knowing about... (even all about) Jesus. In other words, God's elect are the ones...
  3. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Right, but only because you are. I just go where you go... Ah, well, these conversations do get disjointed, and tend to get wider and wider in scope, so much so that they become... unweildy. Well, what you think to be Calvinism crosses into what is known as hyper-Calvinism, which is a...
  4. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Testimonies. Your personal testimony. Well that's too bad. It probably would be encouraging to all of us. But, fair enough. Hmmm... well, Hebrews 11 shows us that no matter what time frame, we are all saved the same way... The assurance and of God and conviction by the Spirit (verse 1)...
  5. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Hmmm, well that's not really relevant, I don't think, but okay. Not necessarily. Many things in the Bible can be read and understood in two very different ways, and just based on the wording itself, one way is just as valid as the other, but only one of the two, since they are very different...
  6. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    No, but I respect your opinion. Right, what you say is correct. I get it. In your opinion. Fair enough. But none can be taken by soft-pedaling or at the exclusion of other passages that say Jesus was given only a few, or those who God predestined, or the like. Confession and repentance is...
  7. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    <eye roll> You should stop misrepresenting it... which is either because you do it unknowingly, because of misperception, or otherwise, but neither is good. If you did that, you might take back what you say here, because it's ridiculous. This is absolutely true, and I and all good Reformed...
  8. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    In a sense, that's correct; it's sinfulness, and unrepentance. But, we will all be judged according to what we have done... the fruit he or she has borne (or not). Yes and no; in one sense, you're right, is is rather because of sinfulness, being dead in sin, which is a state of the heart. But...
  9. PinSeeker

    Why trust the "Early Fathers?"

    LOL! The Lord's Supper is a sacrament in which the bread and the wine that we partake of are temporal elements pointing to a greater reality ~ which... just those words I think you'll agree with, but... The word sacrament can be understood in a narrow sense and also a broad sense, and both at...
  10. PinSeeker

    Why trust the "Early Fathers?"

    IIIIIIIIIIII (see what IIIIIIIIIIIIIIII did there? <smile>) think it's quite obvious, but again, it depends on who we say these "early fathers" are, and I'm sure we disagree ~ for the most part, if not entirely ~ on that (also... <smile>). Hmmm, well... this is true of so many things that get...
  11. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    I'm going to dismiss this too, graciously. <smile> Right, but that doesn't mean He sanctions it or approves of it, or is the author of it. Some will think that, but, okay. Right, but again... well, see directly above. Right. Something decreed is not necessarily actively caused or ordered...
  12. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Okay, ordaining and decreeing... You know, I went for my afternoon run a little while ago and I was thinking about what I had posted to Lambano... NOTE: I'm not gossiping about Lambano, I just mentioned him ...see what I did there? <smile> So, okay, I'll agree that essentially, they are the...
  13. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    I just mentioned you, that's all. No, it wasn't gossip, or like it, at all. I do not agree with many mainline Christians about certain things in God's Word (especially in the West, as I said) because they are wrong about those things, But I am a member of a church of a (very) mainline, (very)...
  14. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    From above... Now, perhaps here I am not speaking to exactly what you are referring to as "historically quite correct." but no, He doesn't "decree that we should sin" (I'm not sure what you mean by 'historically,' as God is not a part of human history, but rather the Ruler over it... the great...
  15. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    From above... The problem, Lambano, really, is ~ unintended... inadvertent... as it may be ~ an underestimation of sin and our natural condition of being dead in it... which is the proper understanding of John Calvin's "total depravity." Many want to make it out to a very wooden "inability to...
  16. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    With all due respect, probably because you have many of the same misconceptions and misunderstandings that GodsGrace has hit on time and time again over the course of this discussion (if it could be called that at all, really, speaking of GodsGrace's role at least through the latter part of this...
  17. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Ah, no you're not. LOL! But okay, Gosh. Hey wait, I thought you were done... <smile> What happened to that? <smile> Well, then give me yours. Love The Matrix. What a great flick... No you're not... <smile> You should be, but, hey, you do you. LOL! Wait... how do you know...
  18. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Good-natured sparring between Christians about the things of God is a good thing. Now, quarreling and disparaging and even insulting should be refrained from completely, and I would exhort you to do just that. LOL! Suit yourself, for sure. <smile> Grace and peace to you in the name of our...
  19. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Yes, He loves all His creation, and is making it new. However... there is a sense in which He only loves... some/many. Nope. PinSeeker. Right, no need. "Some kind of syntax"... what do you even mean by that? Hm. I'm not even sure what you're talking about here. But no matter. Um...
  20. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Well, yes, but God's Israel, not physical Israel. And in Romans 9-11, he's clearly speaking of how God will save the individuals that will make up His Israel, His household ~ both ethnic Jew and Gentile. And Moses quoted God. If God says, "I will have mercy upon whom I will have mercy...