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I'm using only biblical terminology. The New Man is Christ that we put onto the inner man. The outer man is the old clothing. Christ is the new clothing. Again, death is separation...becoming disconnected from the carnal sin nature. If you read Romans 7 it talks about not being able to take on a...

The bible goes much deeper than this. Jesus was crucified. We are also called to be crucified...pulled apart...our bones out of joint. We KNOW the Spirit by the 1st cut. We can be led on that level. But we are only EMPOWERED to walk by the Spirit after we are pulled "out of joint" ...from our...

There are two cuts....separation from the world...and then separation from the flesh. Two river crossings in the salvations of God. Have you watched the video? Also Heb. 4:12 is not just about separating the soul and spirit but also the joints and marrow (bones)....2 steps. The soul has sin...

Death means a separation. Cutting a covenant means there is a dividing taking place....like the veil of the temple. So in a biblical sense....the veil "died"...death for the veil...life into the temple. Being crucified actually is to be "pulled apart" That separation is a death as well...

But can it? Without something to compare itself with?

This happens all the time from Greek to English...where words are translated so that unspiritual people can make sense of it. This is true. Out of the abundance of the heart....

Although a spiritual understanding could contradict our interpretation. The bible we read is only a translation...a TARGUM...as the Jews call it...not the actual word.

Would you believe???..."It's no longer I"?

Like when the flesh is disparaged...the carnal rise up to defend it. :) It shows where some people live from!

In this time of delusional doctrines and man-made traditions, we are called to walk the separated path - to lose our life now in order to gain it, now and into eternity. Our outer man covering is meant to be sacrificed in order to have the hidden inner man liberated and strengthened from...

I think that's the point... :oops: :oops::ummm:

Not...I am of Paul. I am of Apollos... But people reveal their true selves by how they criticize others. All this.."self" and "works" defense shows that something is very off. They have a human logic approach to the bible...but human logic doesn't make one born of the Spirit.

By accepting Jesus into your heart? By reciting a prayer? How was this manifested? You will take me to mean something bad...as you think that I am like you. Always trying to win....BUT my concern is for the outcome. NO person who will be rejected considers for even a moment that they will be...

Or else only reading the scriptures that fit their view through misapplication... Really? Who is deciding if spiritual reality lines up with our views? That's not the point. The devil is also a spiritual creature. You are confusing eternal life with a good outcome. JW's also make a point...

You are sidewinding here. Apart from your opinions...what makes you think you are born again? It's funny you immediately deflect to self-effort...as if...you think you can be born again by just wanting to be???

Who is defining who is born again? It's too easy to declare yourself to be spiritual....which you refute when shown what that is...and then claim to be exempt from all the warnings of the bible. Isn't that what the pretenders do? Yet the disciples of Jesus asked Him...Lord is it I ??? They were...

Thank you for your human logic. But it isn't truthful or biblical. The original people of God...the Jews can't become unJew can they?...and yet not all are Israel who are of Israel. If they were rejected so can we be..even easier! Do you know Pauline doctrine? Not really. Paul says that we...

All I can do or we can do is appeal to the part of people that God is after...the inward man. I would say that most modern believers are not really in much contact with their inward person because the popular religion tries to entice the entire person...especially the flesh. If a church fails to...

I think that people have a hard time with my way of seeing things because I have an eternal mindset. I'm an eternal type of person. Not knowing people according to the flesh...but in their true eternal state. Why rebuke and reprove? To get people (back?) into an eternal state...according to...

What about the idea of expecting a reward of eternal life in the future age but not entering into that life now? The subject gets confusing. One must endure to the end to be saved. But endure in what exactly? For the saint, it is to receive the hard training of selfless surrender NOW. For the...