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Too funny I called you out for omitting the time frame of Lot and Noah You answered in generalities... and again... OMITTED the time frame of the rapture BY Jesus. All rapture verses are pretrib with the setting of peacetime, commerce, and normal life. But hey change it around or believe it...

True. The parables have components. They are a story within a story. I truly believe they are a gift to us. I need to submit to the lesson/ meaning in the story. There is no other way. Men can make them say pretty much what they want. Unlimited misuse and reframing is possible. But what is the...

You just proved their are 2 comings. Oh...wait ....you left out the TIME FRAME. You left it out to support the erroneous doctrine you are trying to defend. So yes Leave out theTIME FRAME, Ahem, "BEFORE THE FLOOD" and pooof! Your doctrine rings so true. Not really. It just made a big thud...

In the ultimate fulfilment, the throne of David will be re established and Jesus will occupy it. Do a study on David as the forerunner of Jesus. Or maybe a good start would be to understand the forerunner dynamic.

Again, rev 14 makes your assumption impossible. Your doctrine is so poorly thought out, that it has the read in Christ raised AFTER the gathering of the living in rev 14

David is the forerunner of Jesus and he had many wives

Jesus depicted the rapture gathering as roughly half the church. Half stays behind and refuses the mark, and are martyred.

QUOTE; "For Christ to be drinking the wine, he must be reigning over the Kingdoms of the Earth. This will be fulfilled when Christ reigns as King over the nations, in his Kingdom, and He treads the grapes of wrath at the Wedding feast." Huh? You are not aware he is CURRENTLY ruling and...

Uh, it says every man , woman and child receives the mark. But change it around as you can not accept scripture. Then change rev 14 because your doctrine needs the dead in Christ raised after the Gathering of rev 14. Or change 1 thes 4, to read the gathering of the living of rev 14 DO PRECEDE...

just omit the pretrib rapture verses that I posted. It is JESUS declaring them. None of them REMOTELY agrees with your rapture assumptions. That is why you never get specific. Just one broad generality after another.

You sure get a lot of mileage out of the word "midnight". You jettison the parable to make "midnight" the focus. When in actuality the setting is 100% peacetime and normal life. Including buying and selling. You actually changed the setting, and had no proof of any such thing. The wedding and...

Just debate the verses. No need to pretend you are my mommy. No trash talking here.

Lol. The Tabernacle of God is WHERE GOD DWELLS. Too funny how you are on that hamster wheel of backpedaling. YOU NEVER ADDRESSED THE COMPONENTS! "Before the flood" You can not reconcile "before judgment" The flood was judgement. But leave it out... as you did. Jesus said " before the flood"...

Cut the verses out. Pooof! Your doctrine lives

then transpose some ridiculous assumptions to "lot", "before the flood", the gathering of rev 14, the 10 virgin parable, and the 2 escape verses, because they are solid bible verses and arent going away. All your teachers omit them anyway.

Mat 25 The 10 virgin parable is the rapture. Half the church left behind. Maybe "secret" to the world that is asleep at the moment of the rapture. Not secret to the world that witnesses it during the day.

The setting is 100%Jewish and Israel in some of those verses. AD 70 was partial fulfilment.

Yes On the white horses. With the saints. The Rapture is pretrib as Jesus depicted. Omissions are your friend to your assumptions. True eschatology is scripture interpreting scripture. You will always be at a loss and never reconcile the pretrib rapture verses BY JESUS, while clinging to...

I just addressed the nithing burger dynamic of other people transposing irrelevant mess on another's doctrine. Pure waste of time and borders on dishonesty. For example; " all postribbers wirship the spaghetti monster" Type of nonsense, and expect them to defend such silly slander. Mary staying...

Pretrib rapture adherent here. The first time i heard " secret rapture" was a postribber transposing that onto the debate as some make believe pivitol talking point. Has no traction and is some desperate attempt to move the debate into some rabbit trail. Just plain silly