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Man can deny. So what? Since when has reality been based on what man says? Man is deceitful. Even Peter lied and denied Christ. (Matthew 26:69-75) That didn't make it true that he didn't know Christ. It just made him a liar. Do you concur? Or do you suggest Peter was no longer saved when he...

John says those who depart were never really of us. If they were of us, they would have continued with us. (1 John 2:19) This is because the truly saved have the sealed promise of the Holy Spirit. (Ephesians 1:13-14) But even the saved can waver. So we must piece all truths together to see the...

Jesus says those who come to Him will never perish, but Paul says those who come to Jesus may perish under certain circumstances. This is what you figure. Is that a fair assessment of your view?

They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. (1 John 2:19) Hey Texbow, what does Jesus say about salvation? and where is He in salvation...

Jesus is our Salvation. He did the lawful work for those who He gives faith to. I'm not doing anything to be saved because Jesus already did it, and my best work will have me put in hell. My hope is in Jesus having me with Him. Like what you hear? Welcome to Sovereign Grace, where God is exalted.

You have failed to tell the "whole truth" about "Law, Grace, Obedience and Faith". What are you reflecting? :)

What is the "whole truth"? You failed to tell it. :) You seem to be frustrated with your own contribution.

If you don't fully obey the entire law perfectly, then you are guilty of breaking it. None of us can obey the law... If we could, we wouldn't need Jesus!

Why do you draw the line at common sense? The weak do not adhere to common sense. It is common sense that the couple is not necessarily sinning. But the weak think otherwise. It doesn't sound to me like you are absolutely interested in refraining from what is perceived as sin since you draw...

Who is to say the weak aren't viewing us as intending to cause unnecessary discourse right now? So should we all stop discussing? Where do you draw the line?

Yes, there was a lot of name-calling there. I am happy that man is held responsible. Because if we weren't, we would not need Jesus. I enjoy my relationship with Jesus.

I'm genuinely curious... What if you believed it is God who ultimately causes you to stumble for good purpose? Would you accept that and worship Him for it? This reminds me of the Scriptures with different perspectives on the same event, which show that God caused Satan to provoke David. And...

Great! Would you mind sharing the reason with me? I don't consider my intentions for this thread to be poor.

Right! This post has me wondering. Do we have a thread for biblical poems yet?

You are right. Thank you for getting me to read Ephesians again! Do any specific verses from John chapter 6 stand out to you? I agree, that is why I am curious what convinced @stunnedbygrace my intentions were poor. This is a debate thread after all.

I can relate. There are times I also worry rather than trust. It is good to trust God. But it is God who works in me to trust Him. (Philippians 2:13) I don't attribute my trust in him to be an action of some kind of "free will" that I am said to have. Do you?

Is it you alone who chooses to have peace, or is it God who sends you a spirit of peace?