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    Why trust the "Early Fathers?"

    You think so; that's very clear. Well, now that would depend upon who those early fathers actually are, wouldn't it, Mary? Certainly, they taught at least some different things than He absolutely, unequivocally did not. Hmmm... I may be mistaken, but I think you're speaking of...
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    Why trust the "Early Fathers?"

    Ah, so I take it that your answer to the question I asked is no... although that's still unclear, really, because "close" is rather subjective. Certainly, Augustine lived much, much closer to Jesus's and the Apostles' lifetimes than any of us today. But okay, I was just a little curious on...
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    Why trust the "Early Fathers?"

    We are. No, its close prompts Jesus's return. We disagree... and can leave it at that if you like. Grace and peace to you.
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    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    Did I not say so myself? I did... I mean, undeniably, the text does, so yeah. Disagree. After Jesus rose, certainly; our first resurrection would not be possible without Jesus having risen. And... I think you mean 'previous'... "the previous 19 chapters of Revelation"... That presents a...
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    The Doctrines of Grace

    Some do, unfortunately. Hmm, well, I would say that there are some well-meaning Christians who believe that, but they're just mistaken. They may have the wrong idea about or understanding of the reason Christians ~ even they ~ strive against sin. I mean, technically, yes, if we've truly been...
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    Revelation 7: 4-8 The 144000

    Right, and this was the commission Jesus gave to all of us at the end of Matthew 28:19-20 ~ "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you" ~ and just before...
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    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    Agreed. And the fact that it is a "first resurrection" implied that there is a second ~ final ~ resurrection. You may or may not agree, Rich, I'm not sure, but such is the case. Well, He was indeed the first physical resurrection, but that's only... well half, in a manner of speaking... what...
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    Revelation 7: 4-8 The 144000

    And who is a Jew in God's eyes, rebuilder? A member of the Israel of God... His household? Paul tells us at the end of Romans 2... "For no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical. But a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart...
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    The Doctrines of Grace

    Disagree. People can certainly have mistaken and/or misguided ideas about what God's grace is and what it entails, but that God gives a great measure of grace to every member of the human race is inarguable. Just the fact that we are alive is evidence of His grace. Not necessarily that they...
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    Why trust the "Early Fathers?"

    Well, it was... and is. ;) And will be, until Christ returns. Grace and peace to you.
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    Why trust the "Early Fathers?"

    Agreed. For the most part... Lambano clarified sufficiently. This is not any kind of pointed question, but I'm asking just out of mild curiosity: Do you, Marymog, consider Augustine, who lived well after the age of the apostles (in the late fourth and early fifth centuries A.D.) to be one of...
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    The Doctrines of Grace

    I would hope that we are all "doctrines of grace people," but God's grace is what it is... Oh, well those folks would be "bad doctrine of grace people." :) Yes, once God has saved us and we are being conformed to the image of His Son, our eternal destiny is secured, but in that salvific...
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    The Doctrines of Grace

    LOL! No, but hey, think what you want, certainly. That it is... :) But that's not the Greek word used in Luke 1:28. Rather, it's: κεχαριτωμένη (inflected) χαριτόωcharitoō (root) charitoō (transliteration) Which denotes one being given or bestowed a lofty, even a soaring, magnificent degree...
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    The Doctrines of Grace

    Nobody's saying we don't make decisions or that anybody "makes us do what we do whether we want to or not." But, when God gives us new birth by His Spirit, He is working in us in the Person of His Holy Spirit so that we will and work for His good pleasure. This is Philippians 2:12-13...
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    The Doctrines of Grace

    Absolutely. Certainly, we obey, do good works, and we maintain our faith. But who... well, Who... <smile>... really gets the credit even for all of that? God says in Ezekiel 11:19-20 ~ "I will remove the heart of stone from their flesh and give them a heart of flesh, that they may walk in my...
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    The Doctrines of Grace

    This passage is a little difficult on first glance, as many Bible passages are. Satan's power is not absolute, of course, but is rather under the control of God, Who ultimately rules over life and death (Deuteronomy 32:39; Job 2:6; Psalm 90:3, 139:16; Revelation 1:18). Nevertheless, Satan was...
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    The Doctrines of Grace

    Fair enough. Grace and peace to you.
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    The Doctrines of Grace

    That's not the case. It's Hebrew, of course, but the same word is used of Noah in Genesis 6:8... "Noah found favor in the eyes of the LORD." The word there is 'חֵן,' or 'ḥēn,' which is also translated to the English 'grace.' The same Hebrew word is used regarding God's regard of Joseph in...
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    The Doctrines of Grace

    Right, but ~ and this was my point ~ oftentimes in Scripture, two verses seem to contradict each other, but one is to be understood in one sense, and the other is to be understood in a different sense, in which case they cannot contradict each other because they are to be understood in different...
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    The Doctrines of Grace

    Okay, well, we disagree. These are rhetorical questions, FearTheLord, but if there "is no sin nature," if our nature is not at least partially... <chuckle>... sinful, then why do we sin? If our nature is to not sin ~ even from birth, because babies and very young children sin ~ then why do we...