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  1. keithr

    The gospel was preached even to those who are DEAD

    Revelation 2:26 (WEB): (26) He who overcomes, and he who keeps my works to the end, to him I will give authority over the nations. If we suffer from such deterioration of our minds and bodies at the end of our lives, then I guess we just have to trust God's judgement that He will not blame us...
  2. keithr

    The gospel was preached even to those who are DEAD

    Only Christians are currently saved, as long as they remain faithful until their death. Everyone else is unsaved - they will be saved during Christ's 1,000 years reign. Christians will have the honour and pleasure of sharing Christ's reign, helping to restore everyone back to human perfection...
  3. keithr

    The gospel was preached even to those who are DEAD

    It's in harmony with what I wrote. Romans 5 (WEB): (12) Therefore as sin entered into the world through one man, and death through sin; so death passed to all men, because all sinned. (15) But the free gift isn’t like the trespass. For if by the trespass of the one the many died, much more...
  4. keithr

    Can angels repent?

    Being thrown into the "lake of fire" is symbolic of being destroyed - it's not an actual fire. Death is symbolically speaking thrown into the fire, i.e. destroyed, hence "Death will be no more; neither will there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain, any more" (Revelation 21:4). Just as there...
  5. keithr

    Can angels repent?

    I'll just say it one last time. It is not hell that is prepared for the devil and his angels. Eternal fire is. Eternal fire is not the same thing as hell. Matthew 25:41 (WEB): (41) Then he will say also to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire which is...
  6. keithr

    The gospel was preached even to those who are DEAD

    If you mean that there's a contradiction of claiming that Jesus's sacrifice redeems all mankind, and then saying that many of mankind are destined for the "second death", then that is not a contradiction, just a misunderstanding of the Scriptures. Adam and Eve failed their first trial for...
  7. keithr

    The gospel was preached even to those who are DEAD

    If you have the correct understanding of the Scriptures then there will be no apparant contradictions. 2 Timothy 3:16 (KJV): (16) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: WEB: (16) Every...
  8. keithr

    Can angels repent?

    I had said that the "everlasting fire" is "prepared for the devil and his angels", not hell (sheol/hades) as you had claimed. You then saying that "The lake of fire is forever" is irrelevant to whether it is "everlasting fire" or hell that was prepared for the devil and his angels. (It's...
  9. keithr

    Can angels repent?

    Whether or not the fire lasts forever is irrelevant - Revelation 20:14 (KJV): (14) And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. If hell will be cast into the lake of fire, then the lake of fire cannot be hell. As Matthew 25:41 (KJV) says: (41) Then shall he...
  10. keithr

    Were angels created in the image of God?

    Christians will be changed in the resurrection, and will no longer be human, just as Jesus is no longer human. Therefore it will not be men judging angels, it will be members of a new creation - Jesus and his bride/body: 1 Corinthians 15:51-52 (WEB): (51) Behold, I tell you a mystery. We will...
  11. keithr

    Can angels repent?

    They do have free will - how else could they have chosen to obey God or disobey God? We do not have any knowledge of what laws God gave to the angels, or what punishments were promised for disobedience to those laws. All we know is that there was a war/battle in heaven and the disobedient...
  12. keithr

    Can angels repent?

    The Genesis account in which God said, "Let’s make man in our image, after our likeness" (Genesis 1:26), is a passage about God creating living beings on the earth. It has nothing to do with the creation of angels, so we cannot make any deductions about them from the Genesis account. Of all...
  13. keithr

    The gospel was preached even to those who are DEAD

    Peter doesn't go into detail of what Jesus preached, so we can only guess. The fact that Jesus preached to them could indicate that there is perhaps the possibliity that some of the fallen angels might repent of their disobedience, and refrain from any further disobedience. Having just...
  14. keithr

    The gospel was preached even to those who are DEAD

    They are the angels that Peter refers to in 2 Peter 2:4-5 (WEB): (4) For if God didn’t spare angels when they sinned, but cast them down to Tartarus, and committed them to pits of darkness to be reserved for judgment; (5) and didn’t spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah with seven...
  15. keithr

    The gospel was preached even to those who are DEAD

    That is not quoting Bible verses! You've still not quoted any Scripture that indicates that death is spiritual death rather than physical, or that spiritual death (or physical death) is "separation from God". Let me quote those verses for you - Galatians 6:7-8 (WEB): (7) Don’t be deceived...
  16. keithr

    The gospel was preached even to those who are DEAD

    I don't think so, although it can die - Matthew 10:28 (WEB): (28) Don’t be afraid of those who kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul {spirit}. Rather, fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna. Yes - James 2:26 (WEB): (26) For as the body apart from the spirit...
  17. keithr

    The gospel was preached even to those who are DEAD

    Can you quote some Bible verses that support the idea of a spiritual death? I think you may be misunderstanding what Paul taught. Some more verses from Paul on the subject: Romans 8:5-7 (WEB): (5) For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those...
  18. keithr

    The Book of Jubilees

    I am not familiar with it, but I would suggest reading should-christians-read-the-book-of-jubilee, which has the conclusion: The Book of Jubilees is an interesting read. It is interesting to see how a Jewish sect used, and even tailored the Old Testament story, to fit their own worldview. It...
  19. keithr

    Is the story of Lazarus and the rich man literal?

    You mean as in Luke 16:19-20 (WEB): (19) There was a certain rich man who was customarily clothed in purple and fine linen and making merry in luxury every day. (20) And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, who was laid at his gate, full of sores When you know the meaning of the name...
  20. keithr

    Do animals have souls?

    Not quite correct - the Darby translation uses the word soul: Genesis 1: (20) And God said, Let the waters swarm with swarms of living souls, and let fowl fly above the earth in the expanse of the heavens. (21) And God created the great sea monsters, and every living soul that moves with...