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Well I've quoted a lot of verses (at least 24) which suggest that Jesus did exist before he was born in Bethlehem. If that doesn't convince you then I don't know what will. Keep it in mind as you read the Bible, and delve deeper into the meanings of the Greek and Hebrew words, and one day it...

But I don't own a manor. Oh wait, perhaps you meant "manner"? :D It seems so. But if we keep studying God's word then we should learn more and more of the truth (light). 1 Corinthians 13:12 (WEB): (12) For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I...

No, I am not, nor have I ever been, a Jehovah's Witness. To summarise, at one point only God existed, and He was (and by definition always will be) immortal (He cannot possibly die). Then his only begotten Son (Jesus) came into being (birth or creation - the details are not specified), but he...

Indeed. I was not arguing that Jesus was God, I was pointing out that he existed in a non-human form before he was made human, therefore he existed before he was born as a human (that's what we have been discussing - right?). Yes, I added more Scripture quotes to support why I thought your...

Hebrews 1:2 doesn't say "all", it says "he made the worlds/universe/ages". 1 Corinthians 8:6 says "through whom are all things", not "some things". And "You, Lord, in the beginning, laid the foundation of the earth. The heavens are the works of your hands" is unambiguous, it definitely refers...

But don't ignore the verses that I quoted that said that Jesus came down from heaven when he became human, and that he was in heaven before he was made human, that he was with God before the world was made, existing in the "form of God". I don't think that is correct. Paul wrote that "all...

We do not exist before we are born, or rather, before we are conceived. However, Jesus was the exception. He was not conceived by a human father; he was conceived by God (Luke 1:31,35), and Jesus did exist before he was conceived as a human: Hebrews 10:5 (WEB): (5) Therefore when he comes...

Philippians 3:20-21 (WEB): (20) For our citizenship is in heaven, from where we also wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ; (21) who will change the body of our humiliation to be conformed to the body of his glory, according to the working by which he is able even to subject all things to...

Ditto. Your understanding that we were "spiritually dead" is radically different from what Paul wrote ("You were dead in your trespasses and sins", Ephesians 2:1 - TLV). Ditto. Did he? These verse don't seem very plain to me - 2 Corinthians 5:1-2 (KJV): (1) For we know that if our earthly...

Yes, of course I believe that verse. However, you need to delve slightly deeper and realise what the Hebrew text actually says - Genesis 2:17 (KJV): (17) But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die...

That's the kind of reasoning that meant thousands of Catholics believed in the Transubstantiation, where people were told to believe that when the priest prayed over the bread that a miracle happened and the bread turned into the human flesh of Jesus, and then another miracle happened and Jesus'...

You don't accept what Paul wrote about being dead - Ephesians 2:5 (ISV): (5) even when we were dead because of our offenses, made us alive together with the Messiah (by grace you have been saved), Taking Paul literally, he said we were dead. You've added a strange interpretation of what dead...

I disagree. Look up the Scriptures. I disagree. Look up the Scriptures. I disagree. Look up the Scriptures. Thank you for letting us know that you disagree. What a helpful contribution that has been. (Yes, I'm being sarcastic.)

The Scriptures are a waste of time?! o_O

God will not allow any being to live forever if they are not perfect according to His righteous laws and love - sin is the opposite of love (that is why mankind has been sentenced to death - eternal death, not eternal life). There are currently no "ever living" beings except God and Jesus, and...

You haven't thought of all possible explanations. I have pointed out another explanation to you. It's up to you to decide whether it could be the truth or not. I'm just trying to helpl you understand the truth; that's the whole point of these forum discussions is it not?

(I presume you meant, "Well you gave your opinion why the present does not mean the present".) Yes, it is my opinion on what Paul meant by what he wrote. Similarly, your interpretation is your opinion on what Paul meant. You have assumed that "were dead in trespasses and sins" doesn't mean...

It's the same with your avatar photo - it doesn't look like you're 68 years old. ;)

So "God is God's power and God's glory"? That doesn't make much sense. Again, you're not supplying any Biblical evidence to back up what you're writing. What do you make of Ephesians 3:19 (WEB): (19) and to know Christ’s love which surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled with all the...

Errm, isn't Ronald a man's name?