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All of this hair splitting just makes me want to take a nap. I didn't say you don't believe in imparted righteousness—I put it in the form of a question. And now you have gone to Olympian lengths to try and make sure that justification is seen to be held in far higher regard by you than...

Do you think advising others to abstain from breaking the other nine commandments, "saved" or not, is falling from grace? .

What a coincidence! Me too! But I've only been in that position for 34 years. :( .

I don't think it will count unless it comes from one of Paul's epistles (which I just love, btw). And you should only quote the ones that are controversial, or seem to be (but actually are not) contradictory to other Scripture. That's really popular and folks around here really like that. ;) .

So you only subscribe to imputed righteousness—not imparted? Should we walk also as Christ Himself walked? Was His righteousness on Earth only imputed or was it also characterized by the righteous works He did? .

It's just barely possible that some folks don't like to oblige virtual inquisitions caused by morbid pharisaical curiosity. .

I see. "He started it. I needed to reply." I used to take that approach... when I was 7. .

Which is still just a big, fat straw man. .

We probably ought to get back on topic, by the way. Just sayin'. .

It sounds like you belong to some Paulian "religion." I'm glad I don't discriminate based on religion. Although I suppose you'd prefer I did. Well, actually, we know you would because you led the charge to denounce me as a Paul-hater a few years ago. That was kinda painful but, not to worry...

What you've basically said here is that it's more important to challenge the clubs people may belong to than what's actually being discussed. .

I'm on the edge of my seat. It's bound to have far-reaching consequences and ramifications. :rolleyes: .

:watching and waiting: .

I question your mind-reading skills. .

Let me make it more clear for you, @Behold: Righteousness by works is a convenient straw man in an age of permissiveness, but not a legitimate all-purpose concern. You're on a witch hunt. .

How can you not see that what you're inferring here is the exact opposite of what @Pancho Frijoles is saying? :rolleyes: .

I guess we'll see where folks stand on religious liberty—or, in the case of most political conservatives—RELIGIOUS ENTITLEMENT. .

I couldn't agree more, Chum. :) (But I never get credit for it—I bear the mark of a legalist.) .

The straw man of salvation by works is the greatest smokescreen the devil ever invented. He devises a new way to perpetrate it on folks at the dawn of every generation. He shows people a way to point at others and accuse them of legalism while they practice a masterful, fresh, new style all...

More pontification? What people usually mean when they say "not the same" is actually "the same ten minus one." What law do you think it is that Christ says He came not to destroy or alter one bit? Tell that to remote foreign missionaries. Doubtless you will insist, as others do, that God...