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  1. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    And the teachings of the Apostles aare the teachings of the Church.
  2. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Continued . . . I thought we were . . . If the shoe fits . . . Why else would you claim that I couldm't present ANY Biblical evidence? You can disagree with my evidence – but to say that I didn’t provide any is dishonest. Okay – so you disagree. You cannot say, however, that I didn’t or...
  3. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Correct – He doesn’t take away our gift.. But, He allows us to accept it - or reject it. Ummmmm, the same disciples who were the first leaders of the Church. First of all – The Council of Nicaea did NOT decide the Canon of Scripture. It dealt largely with the Arian heresy. Secondly, you are...
  4. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Who’s “we”? The Church’s original doctrines were discarded and/or perverted some 1500 years later during the Protestant rebellion
  5. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    That claim is based on 2Thess 3.14, which YOU posted. Go back 1 chapter earlier to 2 Thess. 2:15 and read what Paul says about the Church’s teachings: 2 Thess 2:15 "Stand firm and hold fast to the Traditions you were taught, whether by an ORAL STATEMENT or by a LETTER from US." The “US” he is...
  6. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Then, instead of little hit-and-run remarks like that - prove me wrong . . .
  7. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    And we are told over and over. “…provided you remain in His Kindness” “…he who endures” “…but he who stands firm to the end” "If you hold to my teaching…” “…unless you remain in me” “…if we hold on to our courage and the hope of which we boast” Tell that to all of the apostate Christians. You...
  8. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Paul is writing to the CHURCH at Thessalonica. What's your point?
  9. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    We were having a fairly charitable conversation – and now you have resorted to being dishonest. I have given you verse after verse to challenge what I consider to be the false Protestant belief of Eternal Security. (Matt. 7:19-23, Matt. 10:22, Matt. 24:13, Matt. 25:31–46, John 15:1-6, Rom...
  10. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    First of all – the Catholic Church DID declare the Canon of Scripture, guided by the Holt Spirit (John 16:12-15). The Synod of Rome (382) is where the canon was first formally identified – ALL 73 (not 66) Books. - 11 years after that, it was confirmed at the Synod of Hippo (393). - 4 years...
  11. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    The Bible doesn’t even claim this about itself . . . Paul writes that the CHURCH is the “pillar and foundation of truth” (1 Tim. 3:15). Jesus handed over ALL Authority to His Church, to be led by the Holy Spirit (John 16:12-15, Luke 10:16). In Matt. 18:15-18 – Jesus tells His Apostles that...
  12. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    No - I’m simply showing the massive holes in the false Protestant doctrine of Eternal Security . . .
  13. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    And that is in direct opposition to what Jesus’ lament over Jerusalem: Matt. 23:37, Luke 13:34 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, AND YOU WERE NOT...
  14. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Unfortunately for Sola Scripturists – NOWHERE does Scripture claim to be the ONLY Authority. As a matter of fact, Scripture explicitly states that the Church is the supreme earthly Authority. This is not based on ANY special personal attribute of ANY of its leaders - but on the promise of Jesus...
  15. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    No – it’s simply a false doctrine that is not supported by the very Scriptures it purports to represent. WRONG. Aa I indicated before – the use of the word “Epignosis” here indicates a person who has a full, experiential and relational knowledge of Christ. The normal Greek words for knowledge...
  16. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Wrong. The meanings of words change or expand, depending on the participle and tense. For example - ”drink” is not the same as “drank”, “drinking” or “drunk”. And, depending on the usage of the word, “drunk - the meaning changes 1. “He consumed too much wine and got drunk.” 2. “I have drunk a...
  17. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    The Canon of Scripture was not compiled/declared in the first century. Before the 4th century – there were MANY Books that were considered to be “Scripture” and read from pulpits. Some of these Books include the Epistles of Barnabas, the Shepherd of Hermas, the Protoevangelium of James, the...
  18. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    It’s probably not your fault because you’ve never been exposed to this truth. It is an undeniable fact of history. The Synod of Rome (382) is where the canon was first formally identified – ALL 73 (not 66) Books. - 11 years after that, it was confirmed at the Synod of Hippo (393). - 4 years...
  19. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Paul uses the word χηαρισ (khar'-ece) in Eph. 1:6. The word used to describe Mary is Kecharitomene. Correct. The idea that because Mary said that she had a Savior, she was a sinner. There is NO Biblical evidence for Sola Scriptura – yet you adhere to that . . . Wrong. The Bible warns that...
  20. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    You wouldn’t even have a Bible without the Catholic Church. It was the Catholic Church that compiled the Books and declared the Canon of Scripture in the 4th century.