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  1. M

    Is the New World Translation a valid version of the Bible?

    I think it is just that I disagree with you. Why did miracles cease after the destruction of the temple? Tell me that.
  2. M

    Is the New World Translation a valid version of the Bible?

    Dates can be very sketchy, and there was more than one gnostic who was a Cerinthus or a Merinthus. Cerdo was probably the first Cerinthus. Valentinus was one, since Polycarp knew of his followers, and he didn't want to mention his human name.
  3. M

    Is the New World Translation a valid version of the Bible?

    Nowhere in the NT is the Cerinthus mentioned. And it is Cerdo who seems to be the first gnostic Rome. He didn't know the apostle John, and Marcion never exhibited anything supernatural. However, Polycarp was unitarian, and Irenaeus only knew of him through-- it seems, Ignatius of Antioch.
  4. M

    Is the New World Translation a valid version of the Bible?

    Polycarp has more in common with the JWs than the Cerinthus known as Valentinus. My point is that Polycarp didn't have the authority to say the things that he did. John did not exist on earth when Valentinus came to Rome, and to call Marcion the firstborn of Satan implies Marcion was intimate...
  5. M

    Is the New World Translation a valid version of the Bible?

    https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103303.htm Ireneus claims Polycarp said these ridiculous things, though he believed them gullibly.
  6. M

    Is the New World Translation a valid version of the Bible?

    "There are also those who heard from him that John, the disciple of the Lord, going to bathe at Ephesus, and perceiving Cerinthus within, rushed out of the bath-house without bathing, exclaiming, Let us fly, lest even the bath-house fall down, because Cerinthus, the enemy of the truth, is...
  7. M

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    You know he said John was in bath house, and Cerinthus came; and that he claimed to Marcion as the "firstborn" of Satan. Why tell me to find them, lest you do know about these statements?
  8. M

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    The 4 verses that Jesus word to mean he was coming quickly. [Rev 3:11 KJV] 11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown. [Rev 22:7, 12, 20 KJV] 7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed [is] he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book. ... 12 And...
  9. M

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    Oh, puhlease, John in a bath house, and calling Marcion the foremost born of Satan. There is nothing there to convince me. I suppose you would like the fact that he was unitarian also.
  10. M

    Is the New World Translation a valid version of the Bible?

    I have not been "programmed by a cult."
  11. M

    Is the New World Translation a valid version of the Bible?

    I care not if they disagree with me, I care if they are correct.
  12. M

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    Because he left at Jesus' second coming.
  13. M

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    How does one get there? Doesn't God somehow move them there?
  14. M

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    I don't agree about how the dead are woke. We are given physical angelic bodies.
  15. M

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    Revelation would have noted the destruction of the temple of Jerusalem. But if it were before, then the silence is explainable. You don't have any real evidence.
  16. M

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    Which adverb for quickly? But he dead he would come like a thief. This is not slowly and happened in the apostles' lifetime. εὐθέως seems to be adverb which are talking about.
  17. M

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    [Rev 3:11 NKJV] 11 "Behold, I am coming quickly! Hold fast what you have, that no one may take your crown. If I said I am coming quickly, people would take in their lifetime. Jesus meant in their lifetime, not on my turtle as quick as I can.
  18. M

    Is the New World Translation a valid version of the Bible?

    Stop pretending that they and Tyndale knew enough. I care not if the scholars, I care if they are correct; and it is amazing how wrong they are.
  19. M

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    Polycarp lied about John the apostle completely.