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    Every rapture position is new

    Here is that same passage in the LXX. "And it came to pass, when the Lord was going to take Eliu with a whirlwind as it were into heaven, that Eliu and Elisaie went out of Galgala." And later in verse 11 of the same chapter in the LXX..."And it came to pass as they were going, they went on...
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    IS THE RAPTURE FOUND IN THE OLD TESTAMENT?

    The Old Testament mentions the righteous dead being bodily resurrected out of their graves. •Isaiah 26:19 - "Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead."...
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    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    Sure, simple it is. Satan at present is a dead foe. God slew that Dragon and all his underlings almost 2,000 years ago. Since then, it has been mankind alone who is responsible for corrupting the "pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father", which James 1:27 defined for us.
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    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    Mankind has always been able to legalistically concoct "traditions of men" to enslave others. No Satanic help needed, actually. The so-called "holy water" is just one of the many vain traditions that have built up to hold others under control of a coercive, ruling laity, acting as "lords over...
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    Every rapture position is new

    It's true that Enoch was translated so that he did not pass through the death process, but was given a glorified, changed body form that would never die. But he was NOT taken to heaven, because John 3:13 tells us that "no man hath ascended up to heaven" as of that point in time - not even...
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    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    It makes perfect sense for Christ to be defining "Water" as being "namely the Spirit". The Jews were legalistically obsessed with the literal baptism process, thinking that the literal H20 of a baptism rite was credited with producing purity. To that end, they baptized couches, tables, etc...
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    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    Then you disagree with both Christ and Daniel, who predicted the exact countdown to the resurrection which happened to fall on AD 70's Pentecost day. Christ told His first-century audience in Matt. 24:15 that if they read their Daniel Scriptures, that they would understand the timing of the...
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    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    The current so-called "Golden Gate" that is presently blocked up is NOT the same as the eastern gate of Christ's days, which was torn down to the last stone in AD 70, once it had fulfilled its purpose for Christ's second coming return to that location. Today's current "Golden Gate" is the work...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Here is just one to start with, that I'm sure you could probably quote yourself and agree with. "For we must ALL appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad." (2 Cor. 5:10). You believe...
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    The Two Witnesses Came and Went Thousands of Years Ago

    How can that be possible that the Holy Spirit and the Church would be slain and lie dead in the streets of Jerusalem? The Holy Spirit is not something that mankind can dispose of - even for 3-1/2 days. And Christ told us that even the gates of Hell could not withstand the advance of the church...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    God intends to rid this planet of any remaining human evil at the final judgment in our future. A planet purged of all evil, or even the possibility of evil cropping up again, is even better than the Garden of Eden. God can always do "one better" than we can imagine.
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    The Two Witnesses Came and Went Thousands of Years Ago

    That is not my interpretation - Scripture labels this as "seventy sevens". Everyone in Christ's days had been counting down the time of those "seventy sevens" and the Pharisees sent a delegation to John in AD 30 asking if he were the fulfillment of the Messiah prophecy. "Seventy sevens" from...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    This is the end of the period described as the "beginning of sorrows" described in Matthew 24:8. Those particular sorrows would come to an end. The NHNE conditions of Revelation 21-22 are not sinless. Sinners committing sinful activity is still going on outside New Jerusalem's open gates...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    I didn't change the subject. I wrote that all the Matthew references you gave concerning a "completion of the age" were just one of the multiple ages that were then coming to an end in Paul's days. Paul spoke to Felix about a resurrection of the just and the unjust that was "about to be" in...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    NO, there aren't two. The Isaiah 65 description of the New Heavens and the New Earth is the SAME conditions as the NHNE of Revelation 21-22, as well as being the SAME conditions of the NHNE that 2 Peter 3:13 said his own audience was then expecting in their days. It is the SAME description...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    There is a verse in Revelation that the Full Preterists tend to ignore, and it is Revelation 10:4 - the prophecies that the seven thunders uttered which John was forbidden to write down, but was to "seal up" for times to come later on. This information was not needed for John's immediate...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    If you check Isaiah 65's description of the New Heavens and the New Earth, it INCLUDES sinners, the righteous and sinners dying, curses, the birth of offspring, planting, harvesting, building houses, praying to God. There are some things in this list that cannot possibly describe the after-life...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Well, it was a bit more than just a single "end of the age" that the NT writers discussed. Paul wrote about "the ENDS (PLURAL) of the AGES (PLURAL) that had come upon them at that time (1 Cor. 10:11 - "Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Yep, this is very true. I press this point on those who think that the Old Covenant was only in a "transition" of sorts until AD 70. That Old Covenant was dead as a doornail on Christ' resurrection day when the New Covenant was launched with a new high priesthood. God was just "taking out...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    We are presently IN the NHNE reality. After all, Hebrews 12:22 wrote "But ye ARE COME unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels..." This was an already-established city for the saints. It has already come down from...