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  1. keithr

    Do animals have souls?

    What? The passage does not even hint at that. The question that the Sadduces asked was "in the resurrection whose wife of them will she be?” The implication being that everyone will be resurrected around the same time at some time in the future. I was reading it in context. Where are you...
  2. keithr

    Do animals have souls?

    If we are absent from the human body that means we have died, and will be sleeping in death, i.e. we will have no conscious thoughts. Our very next thoughts will be after we are resurrected to life again, which will be moments before the rapture, when we will be caught up to be with Jesus. So...
  3. keithr

    Do animals have souls?

    The Bible only says that it is a resurrection from death. Jesus said, Luke 20:35 (WEB): (35) But those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage. As Jesus also taught, when we are dead (physcially) our spirits...
  4. keithr

    Do animals have souls?

    I can figure it out. In order to mate with women, and have offspring, the angels took on human form. As Jude says: Jude 1:6 (KJV): (6) And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of...
  5. keithr

    Do animals have souls?

    Just quoting different translations doesn't mean that you have understood what Jesus meant. Jesus is not talking literally, just as he wasn't when he said "Take, eat; this is my body" (Matthew 26:26). Albert Barnes' Notes for Matthew 26:29 says: When I drink it new with you - Not that he...
  6. keithr

    Do animals have souls?

    Right. So as I said, there is clear Biblical support for the rapture. It was you that brought up the subject and used the word rapture, so of course I would use the same word, a word which most Christians use and know what it means. It's much simpler to use the word rapture than say "the...
  7. keithr

    Do animals have souls?

    No. There is clear Scriptural support for the rapture. God will only give us what we ask for if we ask for things that are not contrary to His will - He will only grant us what He judges to be best for us. 1 John 5:14 (WEB): (14) This is the boldness which we have toward him, that, if we...
  8. keithr

    Do animals have souls?

    Don't worry, I wouldn't do that! I just wanted to prompt you to contribute to the discussion rather than just say "Yes there will". Posts of "Yes there will be" and "No there won't be" in a pantomine like fashion are not at all helpful or interesting, and we can't learn anything from that kind...
  9. keithr

    Do animals have souls?

    Well that's totally convinced me (not)! BTW, the forum rules state that "Christianity Board is a place for thoughtful discussion", and that we should not post spam, and it says, the following is an example of spam: meaningless short replies outside of the Games Forum. Examples would be posts...
  10. keithr

    Do animals have souls?

    You have quoted 1 Corinthians 15:44 "it is raised a spiritual body", and then immediately write that our bodies will "not be a spiritual body". You're disagreeing with the Scripture that you've quoted and not making any sense! You then say that we will have a resurrected human body too - two...
  11. keithr

    Do animals have souls?

    What John saw in his vision was symbolic, just like the prostitute sitting on a scarlot beast with seven heads and ten horns was symbolic - it was imaginary, not real; a symbol, not reality. That's two resurrections! That is incorrect. We don't reign with Christ during our human lives, before...
  12. keithr

    Do animals have souls?

    You have not shown from the Scriptures that your opinion is a reasonable interpretation. I can find no verses in the Bible that talk about a "spiritual resurrection", so I'm not surprised that you haven't quoted any. Why should anybody believe your opinion if you don't quote verses that...
  13. keithr

    Do animals have souls?

    Don't be confused by "bring with him". Paul is not saying that Jesus will bring the dead Christians with him when he comes for the Church. In context Paul is reassuring Christians that those Christians that have already died will not miss out on returning with Jesus when he returns in glory to...
  14. keithr

    Do animals have souls?

    Why does it refer to the "first resurrection" (in Revelation 20:4-5) if there is only going to be one resurrection? It implies that there must be at least one more resurrection. The second resurrection is mentioned in Revelationn 20:13. Jesus was the "firstborn from the dead" (Revelation 1:5)...
  15. keithr

    Do animals have souls?

    That sounds very like the false teachings that Paul warned against - 2 Timothy 2:16-18 (ESV): (16) But avoid irreverent babble, for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness, (17) and their talk will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, (18) who have swerved...
  16. keithr

    Do animals have souls?

    John 5:24-25 (WEB): (24) “Most certainly I tell you, he who hears my word, and believes him who sent me, has eternal life, and doesn’t come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. (25) Most certainly, I tell you, the hour comes, and now is, when the dead will hear the Son of...
  17. keithr

    Do animals have souls?

    At the time of the resurrection and rapture of the Church, nobody is resurrected "to condemnation in the lake of fire". It is a resurrection of the Church only, and they all are caught up to be forever with Jesus (1 Thessalonians 4:17). The verses you quote are referring to the second...
  18. keithr

    Do animals have souls?

    1 Corinthians 15:50 (50) Now I say this, brothers, that flesh and blood can’t inherit God’s Kingdom; neither does the perishable inherit imperishable. In order to get into heaven we need to be changed to have a spiritual body. Only Christians are promised that. Everyone else, will be...
  19. keithr

    The Apostleship Of Paul...

    Or: 5) There are 13/14 because Jesus was also an apostle - Hebrews 3:1 (WEB): (1) Therefore, holy brothers, partakers of a heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession, Jesus; 6) There are 14/15 because Baranabas also became an apostle - Acts 14:14 (ESV): (14)...
  20. keithr

    Why are Bible scholars leaving Christianity?

    Taking each of those verses in turn, but using a better translation than the NIV (which I don't like because it is not a very accurate translation): Numbers 16:32-33 (WEB): (32) The earth opened its mouth and swallowed them up, with their households, all of Korah’s men, and all their goods...