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2 Tim 3:1-5, 1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce...

I didn't think you were saying I was involved with mysticism. I understood with what you said and I was agreeing with you. I guess a fair number, too many really, Christians do dabble in it though. Yep, all thanks to Adam. But not to worry, through Jesus God made the new man composed of both...

Well, I wasn't talking about mysticism or human fabrications either. The record God gave us about Israel is hardly mysticism or human fabrications. They are true. But they are also historic, given that they are most certainly not current events. Since God saw fit to show us Israel's history, I...

History and spirituality are not mutually exclusive. The people of the Ancient Near East, including Israel, were very spiritual people. In fact they were much more spiritually minded than the Modern West. They didn't even make a distinction between the natural and the spiritual. Every thing to...

Eph 1:4, According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: I mentioned how it really helps to understand the scriptures through the eyes of those to whom God gave it. It's easy enough to see how the Jews...

Good verses. Too bad many of the Jews didn't recognize Jesus, their promised Messiah. I noticed that the dominion, the glory, and the kingdom promised to the son of man would be given to him. One might ask who gave it to him. Must have been somebody that had all of that before the son of man had...

Well, my self discipline seems to have failed yet again and here I am writing yet another post to you on the subject. "Oh wretched man that I am...." :) But I'm only writing to correct a mistake I made regarding the son of man. I guess the way I wrote it was not what I meant to say. It was...

Good point about why the various spirit beings are called sons of God. Seems simple enough. I think that Gen 1:27 is relevant to our discussion. So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. The plural "us" in verse 26 is changed...

The word "through"is the Greek word "dia" and indicates agency. A movie producer negotiates with an actor through that actor's agent. The agent is an intermediary between the actor and the producer. There are three parties here, the producer, the actor, and the agent. The agent and the producer...

Genesis 1:26 does indeed say God was not alone when He created man, but in and of itself, there is no reason that it must be Jesus. But who exactly is the "us?" I can't speak for everybody, but for many years I took the "us" to mean Juses. Reflecting back on those days I realize the only...

I'm thinking we are not as far apart on things as I may have thought at first. But I do see some things differently. I'd like to discuss them, but I don't want to offend you in any way. I have to admit that I have been guilty of that with you, but I don't want to do it any more. I'll just try to...

You yourself may not be the obstinate one I take it? No possibility of that? It has to be me? OK. Yep...we'll leave it there alright. Well, let's see about that. There is: God the Father God the Son God the Holy Spirit I numbered the list for clarity. "Thus the Father is God; the Son is...

So the only possible conclusion is that this angel is Jesus? I'm thinking there is some other conclusion. Did I not send you the list that showed who Jesus is in every book of the Bible? Maybe I sent it to a couple of other folks, so here it is again: In Genesis he is the promised seed of...

Well, those are all good verses, although I'm not sure why you think the 50 angels you mentioned were Jesus. Could not those angels have been angels? That's what God called them. God certainly knew the word "Jesus" and He could have used that word if that's what He meant. I think He meant angels...

I have no idea how anybody can make sense out of God's revelation when taken as you take it. I can't imagine why anyone would want to take the clear deceleration of 1 Cor 12:7 which says "manifestation" and turn it into a third God when the scriptures declare thar He, the Father, is the one God...

I've never heard of an orthodox church that would agree with what I said about God putting Israel on hold (during Acts to Jude) and then pick up with them again in Revelation. Most of them think Revelation is for Christians (more on that later). I think the scriptures say Revelation is for Jews...

You and I had a discussion about not answering questions. You even include a couple of moving gifs whose exact meaning escaped me, but I saw enough to know it was mocking in character. Not complaining, just saying. In that same vein, and I may have missed it, but I don't recall an answer from...

Well, I can understand that the idea of the church being Israel can be "derived" from the scriptures, but I think when taken as written, nothing could be farther than the actual truth. I fail to see how Romans 11 would have any meaning whatsoever if the church was actually Israel. I guess I...

I tried to graciously bow out of the conversation with a bit of humor. I suppose you are right that I didn't take any side, but it was a deliberate avoidance. It's just how I roll. A large part of my actions is that this stuff sure sucks up time (at least that's what my wife says, and I'm forced...

I think a careful read of my posts will show I've pretty well laid out my case. I just didn't see the need to beat a dead horse to death. But, if I had answered your questions one more time, would you have then believed everything I say? Did I miss my opportunity to bring you over to my side...