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Your methodology is broken. Let me demonstrate : If I hear you assert that "2 + 2 = 5", and I respond, "No, 2 + 2 = 4; let's examine the evidence, which clearly demonstrates that 2 + 2 = 4, plus, if we keep consistent with the math, we can solve a lot of other problems," but your commitment to a...

You can't actually engage in the discussion, you try to shift the discussion--either Irenaeus erred or he didn't.

You've already been made privy to one--Irenaeus erred when he falsely taught his baseless nonsense about Mary. He's been debunked. The thing with an "infallible" Church is one error brings the entire edifice down. There are many more. Your false understanding of Romans 2--that the "Gentiles" who...

There is only one seed Who is the heir; accordingly, only those who are IN CHRIST, the ONE seed, stand to inherit TOGETHER in the ONE heir, in Whom all are ONE--not heirs OF Christ, but heirs IN Christ, heirs TOGETHER WITH Christ. Galatians 3:16 Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to...

Yep, I would've been happy to have submitted to an overseer back then--before the impurities crept in--but, today, we have the additional task of actually arriving at a correct understanding.

Your Church system will pass away before Christ returns. It is already being proven erroneous. If you don't want to use your critical thinking skills in this area of life, I guess that's how you live in the rest of your life--uncritically, unthinkingly. That's your call. I can't do it.

Christ is the heir of Abraham, and all those who are in Christ are heirs together with Christ.

If you want to deny that the entirety of believers, Jew and Gentile, are the bride of Christ, and argue, instead, that the bride of Christ applies only to the "Church of Israel"... are you not also subject to your own criticism that to say such things is to make all the men in the "Church of...

So, when God called Israel "My firstborn son", that made all the women men? For what ever reason, you are a rebellious woman--rebellious against Scripture, and rebellious against people who speak the Scripture which you have zero answers for (except the silliness of, "The Apostles were...

So, you want to be a man? LOL! The very same criticism you want to level at my understanding applies to your own--but you don't realize or won't acknowledge it! "Rules for thee, none for me."? Hypocrisy? Is that how to "rightly divide the word of truth"? Literally nothing you say stands any...

LOL! @Marilyn C was getting absolutely hammered in debate, so she shifted the issue to "show me respect" so that she could run away--it appears--she had enough of having to actually call the Apostles "disobedient", etc, lying against Scripture, to uphold her nonsense, so she decided to bow out...

Oh, I thought I was discussing with a "bible college" student or graduate. I thought you would be familiar, and know which Scriptures I was alluding to. Did you really need me to cite every verse instead of alluding to them?

God doesn't just "call" them His wife, He said "your Maker is your Husband" Isaiah 54:5, and, accordingly, describes Israel's idolatry as "adultery" in Hosea. He RELATES to them as Husband. Oh, but they're His son, so how could He do that? LOL! You are completely out of your depth--and we're...

I guess you're completely unfamiliar with Scripture : God called Israel "My firstborn son" AND referred to them as "sisters" (in Ezekiel), AND said He was married to them. You want to try to physicalize these things to make them problematic, but, again, your ignorant nonsense crumbles in the...

Who said men physically become women? I can't rewrite scripture just because you have a hangup. SPIRITUALLY, the body of Christ is the bride of Christ, just as Adam's own body was his bride. You have no answer for that, right?

No, logically, if Jesus said "Go into all the nations and teach them to observe what ever I have taught you", and the Apostles DID NOT go, they would have disobeyed Him! That is literally your position--if not, make it clear. The reality is that your position crumbles in the face of plain...

Just deal with the responses.

"Already but not yet" : we have the spirit of adoption, but we do not have the adoption of the body, etc.

I put "LOL" and I literally said I was being sarcastic. It was a joke--laughing at Marilyn and Doug's nonsense.

Quit debating the point with me LOL You're like a little dog trying to hump someone's leg. I'M ON YOUR SIDE