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    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    Amen, we need the humility and honesty to know the difference between what is being imputed to us and what still needs to be "worked out" of that, as we "work out" our salvation in the fear of the Lord. It's only as we start growing and maturing that we begin to see that gap by the light of...
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    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    I agree with the fear of the Lord, but it is a spiritual fear, a holy fear, not carnal. Kind of like the peace that sometimes or in some ways passes understanding. It's precisely because He doesn't lie that we need to accept what He says about us. He is not a liar for no longer "counting" or...
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    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    Is there no forgiveness under the new covenant then? On the contrary, I thought that a better sacrifice has wrought better things than the old covenant....we might call it a better forgiveness. One that cleanses the conscience once and for all. We are not under the Law.
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    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    Please expound your understanding of that verse and its context..."God calleth those things which be not as though they are."
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    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    Just pondering out loud, I don't know for sure but I want to mention just in case.......Unjust is a way of living/behaving....filthy is a standing or condition. Righteous is a way of living/behaving....holy is a standing or condition.......?
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    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    What people are you talking about here? And to which God or god do they confess their sins? Lovely! And I think that is the wonderful grace in which we "stand". (If we think of simply standing as being a passive activity.)
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    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    I do believe we are to seek to obey the Lord in sincerity and keep His commandments the best we know how.....according to wherever we are in our walk..."whereto we have already attained". Because we want to be found pleasing to Him and for the sake of truth and righteousness. And I consider...
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    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    I agree. We can either fall short of the mark or overshoot it.....there is plenty of both going around. When it is the Holy Spirit enlightening us, He is showing us what the LORD intended by a thing. And when we are holding it in spirit, so to speak, it isn't the same thing as carving it...
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    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    To me the problem in a nutshell is that you are trying to establish one truth by nullifying another. Meanwhile there is no contradiction when we understand certain things spiritually rather than "logically". God calleth those things which be not as though they are....that is the grace and...
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    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    That Hosea verse agrees with this passage, especially the underlined verse: 1Jo 1:5-10 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do...
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    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    These are difficult questions to me brother...sometimes I think I get it and other times I'm all at sea. I think overall we need to receive what is written through eyes of faith and spirit which is life (Tree of Life). The letter (Tree of Knowledge) kills...but maybe there are times when that...
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    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    We must be careful of the natural mind and of taking things too literally, it will lead us astray of the mark. Scripture/truth needs to be spiritually discerned. I love that verse too........to the believer I believe it is talking about the righteousness of humility through acknowledging that...
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    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    Yes, but we do have a part to play in the choices we make, our willingness and cooperation with the Lord. etc Everything isn't automatic per se because we are sentient beings and not puppets. To my way of thinking we are aiming to be fully yielded/surrendered/consecrated to the Lord....that is...
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    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    @Episkopos I was glad to see that Madame Guyon (pg 64, #1272) sees no contradiction between imputed righteousness and the need to continue "filling up that which is behind" essentially, and continue going on to perfection/holiness, because I see no contradiction either. Israel wasn't left to...
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    Should a Christian have non-Christian friends? - In the world, but not of the world?

    Yes, as human beings we need times of recreation and to push the re-set button, and to catch up with people we know, but after doing that we would rather talk about what is foremost on our hearts. I find it hard to be close to people of the world for the simple reason that I don't have in...
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    Should a Christian have non-Christian friends? - In the world, but not of the world?

    And because many are being led by their emotions, they pick and choose the feel-good scriptures instead of embracing and spiritually discerning the whole counsel of God....this is a slide into nominalism. Man does not spiritually LIVE by (fill-in-the-blank) alone, but by EVERY WORD that...
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    Should a Christian have non-Christian friends? - In the world, but not of the world?

    Amen, and that passage further goes on to say we must come out from among them and be ye separate. Being separate from the world is a big part of what it means to be holy...separate/set apart for the LORD. Doesnt' mean to be unkind and unloving to folks, of course not, but it means we maintain...
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    Should a Christian have non-Christian friends? - In the world, but not of the world?

    Amen and the more pagan the world around us becomes, the society we live in, the less it is going to love believers. And I think it might depend to some extent on one's spiritual gifts/callings too brother. Pastoring types might have more acquaintances around inside and outside the camp of...
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    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    And I believe at times to manifest Christ, His glory, depending on what the experience is. Sometimes it is to communicate a message, like with a vision. Jesus slipped through grasping hands miraculously and I have heard of missionaries experiencing similar when they were in danger. There can...
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    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    It is not unusual for believers to taste the powers of the world to come.......this is just normal for God. For His purposes and reasons known to Him. Could be for such reasons as encouragement, to build our faith and relationship with Him, etc. But we just should keep in mind that our...