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    HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT: Why I believe this about the timing of the NHNE

    Duplicity refers to dishonest behavior, particularly acting in bad faith and pretending to have one set of intentions while acting under the influence of another. It implies a hidden agenda or double-dealing, with a contradictory doubleness of thought, speech, or action. Essentially, it means...
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    HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT: Why I believe this about the timing of the NHNE

    Per your view who else do you have rising from the dead at the beginning of the millennium? Keeping in mind that Revelation 20 only has two groups rising from the dead. The first group, those that have part in the first resurrection, these rise at the beginning of the millennium. The 2nd group...
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    HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT: Why I believe this about the timing of the NHNE

    IOW, you fully know that if you address that post which trumps anything that you have submitted that supposedly proves only OSAS is Biblical, that this will expose you as fully intellectually dishonest. Maybe you are pulling the wool over some eyes in here with your trickery, you not pulling the...
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    HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT: Why I believe this about the timing of the NHNE

    Yes to 1 and 2. Yes to 3. This per Premil though. 3 would not be applicable to Amils while 1 and 2 would be applicable to both Premil and Amil. As to 3, what point are you trying to make here? Keeping in mind, that the rest of the dead don't live again until the thousand years expire. Which...
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    HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT: Why I believe this about the timing of the NHNE

    Prove to the rest of us you are being intellectually honest here in light of the following. Since you want to use the book of Romans to prove your point, I will do the same. Romans 11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation...
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    HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT: Why I believe this about the timing of the NHNE

    What's in question, what is meant by the first resurrection in Revelation 20 and who is it being applied to in Revelation 20? If we view the first resurrection as a 'type' of resurrection, it can involve Christ's resurrection and still mean in Revelation 20 the bodily resurrection of the saints...
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    HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT: Why I believe this about the timing of the NHNE

    What you need to be asking yourself, does your position agree or disagree with Revelation 20:6? That verse says every single person that has part in the first resurrection, they are blessed and holy. That verse equally says every single person that has part in the first resurrection, the 2nd...
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    HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT: Why I believe this about the timing of the NHNE

    That is exactly what I was thinking as well when I read that post of his you are addressing here. He insists NOSAS is his position but then contradicts NOSAS by using 1 John 5:3 to apparently prove OSAS. I'm not convinced he even fully understands the NOSAS position to begin with, the fact he...
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    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    Come on, context, it's about context determining how to understand something. Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, 6...
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    God Interprets His Scripture

    Which could make John one of the 2Ws, could it not? After all, it's not like the 2Ws are not prophesying in Revelation 11. As a matter of fact they are the only ones prophesying in Revelation 11. Revelation 11:3 ¶And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand...
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    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    None of that matters since prince of the kings of the earth is only being applied to the saved.
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    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    I can't make heads or tails out of how you are interpreting this parable? You are going on about--" This is teaching about the approaching day of reckoning for man. It all concludes at the coming of Jesus Christ. This is when the righteous are rewarded and the wicked are punished. It is the...
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    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    Isn't context important to Amils, such as yourself? Do you not see in Revelation that the kings of earth meant in Revelation 1:5 are not meaning the same kings of the earth meant in Revelation 6:15, Revelation 16:14, Revelation 17:2, Revelation 17:18, Revelation 18:3, Revelation 18:9, and...
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    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    For example. The NT says this. Revelation 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh. The OT says this. Zechariah 14:12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the...
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    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    Explain why I would be wrong about some or all of the following? A) Great tribulation and the wrath of God are not the same thing. B) Great tribulation and the great wrath of satan are the same thing. C) The DOTL and great tribulation are not the same thing. D) The DOTL and the wrath of...
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    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    Unlike Amils who mainly only go by what the NT says as opposed to what the OT and NT says combined, I mainly reason things according to the latter. You act as if I don't take Zechariah 14:16-19 to be meaning after Christ has already returned. You act as if I don't take Zechariah 14:4-5 to be...
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    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    In my view, the DOTL involves an era of time rather than a single 24 hour day as Amils believe. I don't know if that equals segments in the way you are meaning it, though? I tend to think the DOTL begins with the seven vials full of the seven last plagues. And if I am correct, it would be absurd...
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    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    Sorry. My bad. I'm relaxed now. :)
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    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be...
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    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    That might be like asking, if two convicted criminals get sent to prison for their crimes, where one gets 5 years the other gets life, does this mean they can't be the same prison both are sent to? Obviously, it can be the same prison without everyone sent there, their fates having to be the...