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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Speaking for myself, there is no gap after the tribulation of those days and the beginning of what verse 29 is involving. Yet there is gap between what verse 29 is involving and what verse 30 is involving. And what I personally think fits in that gap is the day of Lord and the fulfilling of the...
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    Can a tare become saved?

    One way to find out if you really meant yes even though you said no, is if you insist the tares are meaning all of the lost rather than someone more specific, such as the fake Christians in the body of Christ. IOW, the tares support that NOSAS is Biblical. The tares have zero to do with...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    In my opinion it is rather simple if we come from the perspective of Luke 21. Luke 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. First He...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Personally, I found this post rather insightful. I don't know if you are entirely correct or not, but I can for sure see the logic in what you are proposing.
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    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    If you are perhaps trying to make a connection to Revelation 20:9 with that of Revelation 19:20, per Premil the former would be meaning at the beginning or just prior to the beginning of the millennium. The latter would be meaning after the millennium. Per Amil though, both passages would be...
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    Proof Christ will not leave the Father's side for 1000 year separation to reign on this earth

    Does this mean you think that when Jesus returns the Father literally comes with Him? On a different note. Since when does sitting on the right hand of power demand location? Jesus can only sit on the right hand of power while He is bodily in heaven, but can't still be sitting on the right hand...
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    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    When the lost is cast into the LOF, how are you interpreting their fate? Does it mean eternal conscience torment or does it mean annahilation eventually? In order for the former to be true one has to obviously be immortal first, both body and soul, since ECT can't logically apply to someone not...
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    Can a tare become saved?

    Read Post #539 again. You posted that according to my browser. What you were responding to at the time is what you have quoted by @grafted branch having asked. Meaning this---So I’m asking a simple question, can a tare become saved? That's what my browser indicates you were replying to in...
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    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    1 Peter 1:4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, We are to believe that something incorruptible, and that fadeth not away, can fit in an age that is corruptible and fadeth away? After all, it's not like this present age is not...
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    Can a tare become saved?

    And you are an Amil that is on record agreeing that the tares can't mean the lost in general. Who do you take them to mean then? They can't be meaning atheists, for instance. Since there is such a thing as an atheist denouncing atheism, repenting then becoming saved. And that you clearly said no...
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    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    Just because Amils don't believe the beast (first beast) and the false prophet (second beast) are individual human beings, doesn't mean I agree with them about the latter, nor does it mean the Bible even agrees with them about the latter. The latter might be meaning humans. Not one singular...
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    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    And you equally explain away passages that tend to prove Premil, thus disprove Amil. Such as Matthew 19:28. Such as Revelation 3:9. Such as Revelation 3:21 in light of Revelation 20:4, 6, and Matthew 25:31. So on and so on. And I didn't even need to bring the OT up and I still provided...
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    Can a tare become saved?

    Most of us were taught since youth that when the lost die they then wake up in burning flames the next second. Equally, most of us were taught since youth that Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy are real. Eventually we grow up and no longer believe in things we believed in when we were still young...
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    Can a tare become saved?

    Assuming the millennium follows the 2nd coming, those that the tares represent, they won't be present during the millennium. But the ones Meant in Zechariah 14:16 will be present during the millennium. Except these are not meaning the tares nor the saved. Some interpreters just don't get it...
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    Can a tare become saved?

    I can agree that the sowing of the good seed preceded the time of the cross. But what we have to factor in here, is this. Until men slept first, in the meantime there are no tares sown among the wheat. Which then raises the question. How much time elapsed between the good seed intially being...
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    Can a tare become saved?

    The tares get separated during Christ's return at the end of this age and is meaning the sheep and goats judgment. And that the sheep and goats judgment and the great white throne judgment are not the same judgment, in my view. For one, nowhere in Revelation 20:12-14 does it give the impression...
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    Can a tare become saved?

    Shouldn't that mean the tares among the wheat issue has been fully resolved? That there are no more tares among the wheat? That there are no more unbelieving Jews in the world if unbelieving Jews and tares are one and the same? As if reality agrees though, that as of 70 AD unbelieving Jews...
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    Can a tare become saved?

    But even so, not everyone does. So meaning the ones that don't, not the ones that do. The ones that don't, how do they square their view with the parable since 70 AD would contradict their view if they have unbelieving Jews also meaning the tares?
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    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    Obviously, if they are the saved remnant among the nations that then equals they are among these. Luke 20:35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage: 36 Neither can they die any more: for they...
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    Can a tare become saved?

    Or we could even use unbelieving Jews to make your point. Especially millions of them in 70 AD who lost their lives as a result of God's wrath upon them at the time. Matthew 13:28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them...