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    Apostle Paul Showed The Rapture Happens With The Future Resurrection

    Certainly, you're welcome to your opinion... of me and anything else. But my respect for God's Word is very much the same as yours. We disagree on these particular passages, that's all. Well, I'm not "just now figuring that out," actually. We've had exchanges before, and I knew you'd take it...
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    Apostle Paul Showed The Rapture Happens With The Future Resurrection

    Um, I claim to be a misguided person? Really? LOL! Isn't that your claim, Rebuilder? And so it continues... There's a lot of "policing" going on in this forum, and you're just as guilty of that as anyone. "Cunning insults"... I'd generally like to know even one insult I've allegedly thrown...
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    Apostle Paul Showed The Rapture Happens With The Future Resurrection

    Not at all. ...he says, after repeatedly ~ with no provocation ~ sniping and insulting (except with no blessing). Disagreement shouldn't be miscast as disrespect. I have not "sniped" or disrespected or insulted anyone here. I have taken a lot of those things, though, but that's okay, I can...
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    Apostle Paul Showed The Rapture Happens With The Future Resurrection

    Good, well, that makes two of us. :) I sense the tenor of this exchange to be taking a turn for the worse. I hope not, but it seems so... Hm, well, no... and yes... We disagree, I gather, on what the disciples are actually asking that question in reference to. That disagreement does not...
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    Apostle Paul Showed The Rapture Happens With The Future Resurrection

    Hmm, well, I agree here, at least to an extent. That may be, but is not always the case... Well, some are wrong, for sure, but just having errant ideas about the end times is not a result of "fleshly" ~ which is really to say sinful ~ thinking. Hmmm, dispensationalism... :) Disagree. Two...
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    Apostle Paul Showed The Rapture Happens With The Future Resurrection

    I'm saying we are in the time of tribulation... the last days. And there will be a time of great tribulation near the end of that time, even such as will have not been seen/experienced ~ to a much greater degree than has been seen experienced ~ up to that time. Futurism, which is currently in...
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    Apostle Paul Showed The Rapture Happens With The Future Resurrection

    Hm. Well, no one "intends to be in the wrong camp," of course, but through the period of tribulation ~ which is now ~ those in this "wrong camp" believe themselves to be in the right, and that those in the other "camp" are foolish... which was the case in Noah's day and is true even today. No...
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    Apostle Paul Showed The Rapture Happens With The Future Resurrection

    Not I... If you were to change that to "all the earth's inhabitants who are unbelievers," or "who do not find favor with the LORD," then yes... Seems to me everyone here would say that, but maybe not... Well, God promised that "the waters shall never again become a flood to destroy all flesh"...
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    Apostle Paul Showed The Rapture Happens With The Future Resurrection

    Thank you, Davy. I would disagree with this; they want to preserve their lives (and retain all their possessions as part of that). No one "wants to be taken," but some will be ruined/destroyed ~ their lives brought to nothing ~ as a result of not believing, waiting patiently, and giving up...
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    Apostle Paul Showed The Rapture Happens With The Future Resurrection

    Sure. Do you know how to debate? Or discuss in a civil, congenial way? It seems not... No deflections. You know, respectfully, you seem such an angry person. I hope not... Ah, so disagreeing with you, and giving you reasons why, is "trolling?" Well, okay then, guilty as charged. Hard to...
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    Apostle Paul Showed The Rapture Happens With The Future Resurrection

    Sure, but you misunderstand him. It's inadvertent, I'm sure. No... I certainly didn't say that, nor would I. No, I didn't say that either. Leading up to the flood, unbelievers were... unbelieving. Sigh... Yes, I will certainly continue to reframe your erroneous framing of Jesus's comments...
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    Apostle Paul Showed The Rapture Happens With The Future Resurrection

    Not at all. I just don't (inadvertently) make it into something other than it is, as I said. I didn't say anything was "post-judgment." Here you seem to be putting my comments in a different "setting" than they actually were... No, I'm telling you that you're taking Jesus's comments out of...
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    Apostle Paul Showed The Rapture Happens With The Future Resurrection

    Hmm, I agree in a certain sense. He says "as in the days of Noah," which doesn't really set any kind of "frame" except during the time Noah lived, and Noah lived before, during, and after the flood. So in that sense, I disagree. However, Jesus does provide His own context in making those...
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    Apostle Paul Showed The Rapture Happens With The Future Resurrection

    Sure. Of course. No, He doesn't. When He returns in glory, He will finally and completely claim what was His from the beginning. And it will be a very rapturous event, a seizing/snatching of what is His. And in short order, all will be judged, each according to what he/she has done. As a...
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    Apostle Paul Showed The Rapture Happens With The Future Resurrection

    Okay, well, try again. :) See above. God never promises to remove us from trial or tribulation, but He does promise ~ over and over and over again ~ to be with us through it; His steadfast love endures forever, and He will never leave us or forsake us. We all love Psalm 23, of course...
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    Apostle Paul Showed The Rapture Happens With The Future Resurrection

    Well, I'm certainly not a "postribber," but I'll speak to your "challenge..." :) The different takes on Jesus's statements in Matthew 24:36-44 are... interesting... Let me offer this: "For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. For as in those days before the...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    No. Only the ones who are called (by God), will choose Him. Even then, they still can choose either way, but will not fail to choose Him, because they will then, of their own free will and accord, be wholly inclined not to choose... the other "way." It's not a matter of the will, Timtofly...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    Nonsense. That's me declaring that God's elect does not include all people, only the ones God has (or will) have mercy/compassion upon; both Moses and Paul quote God as saying, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion." And yes, this is...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    "Automatic"... what do you even mean by that, Timtofly? The truth is, if God has purposed it, it will come to be. "God can do all things, and His purposes cannot be thwarted" ~ these are originally Job's words, not mine, in Job 42:2. As Paul says in Romans 11:29, "the gifts and the calling of...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    Continued... You are, without realizing it. There is no point of free will to be made, Timtofly. We have it, for sure, but it has nothing to do with this. Any man's inclusion in God's elect depends not on his willing but on God's. Really, there is "coercion" with any choice we make...