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Obviously not; over and over again, what you have said I believe has not been what I believe, And I have corrected these things many times, clarifying what I do believe. But you keep going back to these misunderstandings about what I believe. Well, okay, but you keep attributing things to him...

@Jay, I do agree with you that what Jeremiah says in chapters 50 and 51 does have very clear implications regarding the end times, and I think @Douggg would agree with that, but @Douggg is absolutely correct in saying, "literal Babylon is relevant to the end time prophecies" but that "the...

We agree concerning full preterism (I think); it's... erroneous. :) So, yeah, no need to even discuss it. Let's back up a little. Well, not necessarily "back up," but rather zoom out, and get a summary of the seven churches in general, and then zoom back in to Sardis. Zooming out, regarding...

Cool. Yes, layered prophecy is a general pattern in Scripture. The mental image is like approaching a mountain range, which, from a distance looks like one big thing, but as you get closer and closer, you see the layers getting deeper and deeper the closer you get... You know, to be quite...

Have you ever heard of a thing called "layered prophecy," GB? Beyond that, I would say that, if each is understood/offered in the right way, all five of those things are correct. And I agree, but not just them. :) True, but preconceived notions can be a problem. Well, I think all of what...

Oh, I'm well aware of that, and that's okay with me, for sure, but really, that's only because you don't rightly understand Calvinism, but a mere ~ false ~ caricature of it, as evidenced by your repeated false allegations regarding it. This is what all Arminians do; it's what Jacobus Arminius...

Okay, well, we disagree on that. :) Well, sure, we all are in need of salvation, for sure. But the point of Revelation is that at all times, no matter how bad things seem, God is in control, and Jesus wins... :) ...and ultimately, our victory is already secured in Christ Jesus. In this way...

Not a bad point. :) But likewise... Well, I'll put it to you in the form of a question. Do you not think that what He said there is relevant to us today? Surely, it is... And, in your opinion, did Jesus come in AD 70? I hope not... Jesus was speaking beyond His lifetime... and of His...

I agree, but you're still not understanding me. Unless grace is initially free, dependent on nothing else, then it's not really grace ~ unmerited favor ~ at all. Agreed, but again, though you don't mean to, in saying that saving faith is something man manufactures in himself and is therefore...

LOL! Yes, I do deny ~ over and over again ~ your allegations and accusations. :) In like manner, though, I would say: avoid, avoid avoid; that's pretty much all you have done. So be it. I agree. How about now? :) No need to keep digging the hole you're in yet deeper... :) Hmmm, well...

Thanks for your time in addressing all this, but this whole line of discussion is very superfluous (exceeding what is sufficient or necessary) with regard to this thread. That said, I agree with this: "it is entirely possible to pin down the date of Revelation's composition by using its own...

We just don't know for sure. However, Irenaeus reports, on the basis of earlier sources, that "John received the Revelation almost in our own time, toward the end of the reign of Domitian" (Against Heresies). Since Domitian's reign spanned from AD 81 to AD 96, most scholars date Revelation in...

So you're talking about the original poster, the one who started this thread; that's the title of the thread he started. That was not me. But still, even that in saying that, the poster was not actually saying Paul, in any of his writings, quoted John from Revelation. I do see, however, how...

Me, too. I'm not sure who @bluedragon is attributing that to. And, John didn't quote Paul. There was no collaboration. :) However, some ~ many, actually ~ of the same truths of God are expounded upon by Paul and John... :) Grace and peace to you both.

SIGH. :) Continued here... Well no, but I can't change your opinion. Only you can do that. Or... can you...? :) I think you can... Well, they don't actually become elect until the actual electing... :) ...but they are or are not at least headed for election from conception, even before...

I didn't avoid it, I dismissed it out of hand, for obvious reasons that I made very clear in my response. No, I dismissed your attempt at diverting from the issue at hand... or making it something other than what it is. Right, God had already changed their hearts prior to hearing what Paul had...

Remember what Jesus tells that group of Jews in John 8... See above... God is not surprised by anything. Right. Right, and why do they choose this, Spiritual Israelite? Not because "God made them..." :) See above... Sure, but many do not... because... :) See above... Not naturally...

What a strange question to ask... But more avoidance. I get it... But to answer your question, nothing in and of itself. Yeah, I understand the Arminian thing very well; it's all about free will, which is a total miss of the point. It's about the nature of the person, the spirit in him or...

I think you may be missing my point... :) Grace and peace to you.

Or, was the real Author.. :) ...of all Scripture actually Someone... :) ...else? Grace and peace to you, BlueDragon!