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  1. atpollard

    A Simple Yet Irrefutable Reason The Catholic church Is Not Rooted In Christ's Church

    Matthew 12:33 I cannot "venerate" the Queen of the Universe, so I must go elsewhere to find the True Church where I can worship God. In necessariis unitas, in non-necessariis libertas, in omnibus caritas.
  2. atpollard

    A Simple Yet Irrefutable Reason The Catholic church Is Not Rooted In Christ's Church

    Technically, it was the catholic (small ‘c’) Church that compiled the “Bible” (canon) before the Bishop of Rome “jumped the shark” and split the Church (long before the Protestant Reformation).
  3. atpollard

    A Simple Yet Irrefutable Reason The Catholic church Is Not Rooted In Christ's Church

    Mark 7:5-13 [NKJV] Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him, "Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands?" He answered and said to them, "Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: 'This people honors Me with...
  4. atpollard

    A Simple Yet Irrefutable Reason The Catholic church Is Not Rooted In Christ's Church

    My premise is that the oral tradition is either written down or lost … oral tradition is like that. My premise is also that any MODERN tradition that is contrary to Scripture is NOT an Apostolic tradition.
  5. atpollard

    A Simple Yet Irrefutable Reason The Catholic church Is Not Rooted In Christ's Church

    Quote from “Clement of Rome and Ignatius of Antioch and Polycarp” referring to Mary as “Queen of the Universe” or “Co-redemptrix” as they preserve the Apostolic oral tradition.
  6. atpollard

    A Simple Yet Irrefutable Reason The Catholic church Is Not Rooted In Christ's Church

    FROM US …. Apostolic oral traditions were binding … but the “home movies” recording them were lost in a move in the 2nd century. We only have the Apostolic WRITINGS left for US to read.
  7. atpollard

    A Simple Yet Irrefutable Reason The Catholic church Is Not Rooted In Christ's Church

    You (and your bishops) are not the NT Writers. You do not get to add to the word of God as they did. You have not been called to do so. (Jesus would have mentioned something that important). You imitate the Scribes and Pharisees adding the traditions of Men to the Laws of Moses to tie heavy...
  8. atpollard

    A Simple Yet Irrefutable Reason The Catholic church Is Not Rooted In Christ's Church

    No, Sacred Tradition does not … but those verses quoted to support it do. That that whole READ THE CONTEXT thing that we Sola Scriptura folk keep harping about and you RCC Apologists keep ignoring. You read scripture like a Mormon … “When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful...
  9. atpollard

    A Simple Yet Irrefutable Reason The Catholic church Is Not Rooted In Christ's Church

    Is the EOC part of that “Catholic Church” … because Rome and the EOC are still not in agreement on sharing communion (making the claim of “one church” a bit of a stretch).
  10. atpollard

    A Simple Yet Irrefutable Reason The Catholic church Is Not Rooted In Christ's Church

    Not by me … I deleted the post because Illuminator had already addressed the issue as far as anyone was going to. For the record, I am a Particular Baptist … we believe that EVERY LOCAL CONGREGATION answers directly to Jesus Christ … so every local congregation is a “denomination” by some...
  11. atpollard

    A Simple Yet Irrefutable Reason The Catholic church Is Not Rooted In Christ's Church

    Some of what you criticize are “Baptist Distincives” (traits common to “Baptists” rather than “Protestants” in general). As such, most Lutherans and Presbyterians and many others would say “Amen” to your laments. However the Baptists were not born out of the Reformation. We never attempted to...
  12. atpollard

    A Simple Yet Irrefutable Reason The Catholic church Is Not Rooted In Christ's Church

    2 Thessalonians 2:13-15 [NASB95] But we should always give thanks to God for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and faith in the truth. It was for this He called you through our gospel, that you may...
  13. atpollard

    A Simple Yet Irrefutable Reason The Catholic church Is Not Rooted In Christ's Church

    He advocates reading scripture verses within their surrounding context, rather than removing verses from context as stand-alone points. (Just offering translation).
  14. atpollard

    A Simple Yet Irrefutable Reason The Catholic church Is Not Rooted In Christ's Church

    Could you list even 500 of the “tens of thousands” of Protestant factions? (It will reveal the innate fallacy of the claim.)
  15. atpollard

    Sola scriptura?

    OK, lets test that. Dogma: Assumption of the Blessed Virgin. Scripture: Matthew 12:46 [NASB20] While He was still speaking to the crowds, behold, His mother and brothers were standing outside, seeking to speak to Him. Luke 8:19 [NASB20] Now His mother and brothers came to Him, and they were...
  16. atpollard

    Sola scriptura?

    No HUMAN King administers his Earthly Kingdom ... John 18:36 [NASB20] Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm." Will you...
  17. atpollard

    Sola scriptura?

    Which is it? the truths revealed by Christ and taught by the apostles or "dogma" The Dogma of the RCC is not the TRUTH taught by Jesus and the Apostles as recorded in the Scripture.
  18. atpollard

    Sola scriptura?

    ... that "one shepherd" of the "one fold" is Jesus (not Jorge Mario Bergoglio ... aka. Pope Francis).
  19. atpollard

    Sola scriptura?

    e. None of the above. (John 6:37)