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  1. quietthinker

    Can a pastor have depression?

    Is there value in stating the obvious?
  2. quietthinker

    Can a pastor have depression?

    I think depression (which is emotional) presents when a valid focus is lost; when self and peripheral matters consume one's internal world. Pastors or missionaries are under a pressure to live up to a certain image and when the available energy is image focussed the greater value becomes thin.
  3. quietthinker

    disturbed & stressed

    You can be certain your own evaluation is a mile behind. No doubt you recall Jesus saying to get the log out of your own eye before the splinter in your brother's? He's saying this because those attempting to get the splinter out of their brother's eyes are oblivious to the log in their own.
  4. quietthinker

    Has anyone ever planted ginger?

    I grow both ginger, galangal and turmeric by the bucket load. It grows easy with little or no maintenance in the tropics. I just stick the pieces in the ground and away they go. Initially they need water but once the root is established it hangs on. All this is going on while they compete with...
  5. quietthinker

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    Jack, I think this attached presentation is tailored for you. Please make the effort and take the time to watch it. https://www.rediscoveringgod.ca/post/212-the-apparently-angry-arbitrary-god
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    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    Evil destroys itself. It has in it the seeds of its own demise just like cancer untreated will kill its victim.
  7. quietthinker

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    Understanding the scriptures is as much the leading of God's Spirit as it is reading the words. Because Israel through history had certain ideas about God they inevitably wrote from their cultural paradigm. Jesus shifted that paradigm. When he made statements like 'you have heard it said blah...
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    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    Translating from ancient texts is tricky because the vocabulary in Hebrew has considerably less words to utilise than English. Also a translator translates through their bias.....as do we. Sooo, if and when a paradigm is unknowingly faulty, complex texts or texts which are not clear because of...
  9. quietthinker

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    No need to give up, just be reasonable and acknowledge the truth of the matter when its in your face.
  10. quietthinker

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    Isn't it strange how you can't understand me in the present day but give plenty of commentary on what was written thousands of years ago ....which you think you understand.
  11. quietthinker

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    You just don't get why I've asked this particularly in its context or you don't want to know.
  12. quietthinker

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    In that case I wonder why you make so many words?
  13. quietthinker

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    hmmm, as I thought. You ask things you don't want to know and don't ask about that which you aught to know.
  14. quietthinker

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    Why do you want to know that Jack? You wouldn't believe me if I told you anyway!
  15. quietthinker

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    Ohhhh, when you said 'my fairytale imagination' I thought for a moment maybe I got my description about God frying folk wrong. Perhaps you thought he was lining them up for tea and scones? .....but no, unfortunately you have confirmed my original suspicions in your post above .....and your...
  16. quietthinker

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    No doubt Adam had many conversations with God audibly before the fall. What I addressed was after the fall, not before it and not about anything audible but what they 'heard' in their reality. Here's an attempt to describe how and what they 'heard' Before the fall all was harmony with Man and...
  17. quietthinker

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    They never heard an audible word rather sin shifted their perception...both of God, others and themselves. It made them self centred rather than other centred. Their default was now selfish and fearful and their defence mechanism is hiding and fear with self as the priority. They are now hearing...
  18. quietthinker

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    :Broadly:
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    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    I know Jack, I know, you are persuaded that billions will get around with a red hot skewer up their backsides for eternity while their feet are roasting on red hot metal plates with needle sharp spikes protruding. In your view They have been given immortality just like God has so that they...
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    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    Could we see it another way? For instance, God's mercy was on display in that he removed them from the temptation if not possibility to eat of the Tree of a Life. Could we deduct that had they eaten of the Tree of Life, there would have been no end to a sinful disposition? I'm not sure if that...