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  1. keithr

    Jesus was made Lord and Christ at His resurrection

    You don't say it, but I get the impression that you think that those verses are not in harmony with the verses I quoted. How do you harmonise Jesus' words that God is in Jesus, Jesus is in Christians, Christians are in Jesus, and Jesus and Christians are in God, and we are all one, with other...
  2. keithr

    Jesus was made Lord and Christ at His resurrection

    You shouldn't just "weigh" it with other Scriptures; it must be in harmony with the rest of the Scriptures. Jesus declared that the Father is the only true God (John 17:3), and never does Jesus claim to be the Father, nor is he declared to be the Father. Therefore Jesus saying "He who has seen...
  3. keithr

    Jesus was made Lord and Christ at His resurrection

    That doesn't answer Robert's question. To give more context to the verses that you quoted, Jesus had just said: (6) Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father, except through me. (7) If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now...
  4. keithr

    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    In Jude 1:7 it says, (WEB): (7) Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them, having, in the same way as these, given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are shown as an example, suffering the punishment of eternal fire. However, if Sodom and Gomorrah...
  5. keithr

    Jesus was made Lord and Christ at His resurrection

    Do you mean 1 John 5:7-9?
  6. keithr

    Jesus was made Lord and Christ at His resurrection

    That verse doesn't say anything in relation to Jesus' resurrection; it just says that it was God who made Jesus to be our Lord, and made Jesus the Messiah, i.e. it was God who anointed Jesus to become our saviour and our king. Just prior to this, in Acts 2:31, Peter said: (31) He seeing this...
  7. keithr

    The Rapture vs. the Pre-tribulational Rapture

    It's difficult to define what a spirit being is, because we have no knowledge or experience of what it is like. Scientific theory would lead us to suspect that spirit beings live in an extra dimension, or dimensions, that we don't have access too, and have difficulty imagining. They are not...
  8. keithr

    The Rapture vs. the Pre-tribulational Rapture

    What makes you think that? I wrote, "nobody, not even any Christian, is righteous. We have all sinned and are all imperfect, still having a sinful nature". How can you twist that to mean "everyone is worthy"? You're not making much sense to me! A bastard is someone whose mother and father...
  9. keithr

    The Rapture vs. the Pre-tribulational Rapture

    Please give Scripture references to support your claims. I have not dismissed anyone! Buster? They rejected Jesus because they rejected Jesus? You're talking nonsense! You're now calling people idiots and bastards - you're showing more hatred and lack of love and compassion! Remember...
  10. keithr

    The Rapture vs. the Pre-tribulational Rapture

    You call them "worthy" as though it was by their works that they had faith in Jesus, but the Scriptures says otherwise. To repeat, Romans 11:5-6 (WEB): (5) Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. (6) And if by grace, then it is no longer...
  11. keithr

    The Rapture vs. the Pre-tribulational Rapture

    I asked if you had any supporting Biblical evidence, and you respond by insulting the Jews and asking a stupid question. So from that I take it that you have no Biblical evidence to support your claims. As for the Jews being stupid, that is God's work - Romans 11:8 (WEB): (8) According as it...
  12. keithr

    The Rapture vs. the Pre-tribulational Rapture

    Yes, it's referring to the Christians who are alive when the first resurrection takes place. The dead in Christ are resurrected as spirit beings, and the Christians still alive will be changed to become spirit beings and caught up to join the resurrected Christians and Jesus amongst the clouds...
  13. keithr

    The Rapture vs. the Pre-tribulational Rapture

    It is totally illogical and fanciful to interpret 1 Thess. 4:17 in that way! What supporting evidence do you have to make you think that is the correct interpretation? What other verses use the words 'air' and 'clouds' in the same manner? The word 'air' only occurs 11 times in the whole...
  14. keithr

    The Rapture vs. the Pre-tribulational Rapture

    This is what 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 (WEB) says: (16) For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with God’s trumpet. The dead in Christ will rise first, (17) then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the...
  15. keithr

    1Peter 3:18

    He says nothing about his "flesh body" being made into a spirit - that's just your assumption. John 1:14 (KJV) says: (14) And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. (or more precisely...
  16. keithr

    1Peter 3:18

    Precisely, so Jesus cannot have been resurrected with a human body again because he could not then inherit the kingdom of God (nor even go to heaven and sit at God's right hand). Only Christians have the opportunity of being resurrected as spirit beings, non-Christians will be resurrected as...
  17. keithr

    1Peter 3:18

    Well when I use logic and common sense I end up with a different conclusion. I guess your common sense is different to mine! :confused: Note that verse 46 says that first we have a natural body, but then afterwards (after our resurrection) we will have a spiritual body. But nowhere does Paul...
  18. keithr

    Site upgrade - Downtime

    I don't see that in my browser (Firefox).
  19. keithr

    1Peter 3:18

    You cannot logically make that deduction from the Scriptures. Thomas saw and touched his flesh body after his resurrection (but that was just a similar looking body, not the same one)! The Scripture says: Psalms 16:10 (WEB): (10) For you will not leave my soul in Sheol, neither will you...
  20. keithr

    1Peter 3:18

    His body was not transformed from a dead physical flesh and bones body into a spiritual body, any more than our human bodies will be transformed into a spirit being body. Our bodies will disintegrate (dust to dust), and God will give us a completely new spirit body (which is not a physical...