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It is certainly true that there is the natural and the spiritual, but I think we must keep each in its proper place. There is actually a slight caveat to that, but I won't go into it since it's not relevent to this conversation. If we spiritualize everything, I don't see any end to the...

I wonder how this fits in: Ezek 11:17-19, 17 Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will even gather you from the people, and assemble you out of the countries where ye have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel. 18 And they shall come thither, and they shall take away all...

I'm not 100% sure exactly where it's written (Isaiah, Jeramiah, or maybe Ezekiel), but the scriptures talk about people having regular old houses, vineyards, barns, and jobs on the new earth. As I recall it mentions carpenters, farmers, artisans and a few more professions. Seems like it will be...

I'm curious. How do you make the connection between "the end point" (Hebrew olem) of v15 and the Roman Empire? Why could it not refer to the restored earth in Revelation 20-22? I think those chapters talk about a new earth (really "land" in their cosmology) with a city, mountains, and rivers...

That's what the text says when taken at face value. Not sure why so many seem to think God was somehow trying to be cryptic or something like that with His words. Just read what's written and it all makes perfect sense.

All very good points. You seem rather perceptive regarding God's wonderful matchless Word! I would like to add some stuff about the mystery, stuff which you probably already understand. Strong's definiton: G3466 μυστήριον musterion (mï-stee'-riy-on) n. a secret or “mystery.” {through the idea...

Well, I think you may be right about my not fully grasping what you are saying. I have been know to be a bit slow on the uptake at times. :) As far as what Jesus inherited: Gen 12:7, And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar...

Those are all good points. I agree with you about the parallels between Abraham and Christians, but a parallel of something by definition means there are two different things. When God spoke to Abraham about inheriting the land, I think, when taken as read, that He was referring to a very...

"He who has an ear, let him hear." has a context, namely that the Jews did not understand who Jesus was despite the clear parallel between his life and that which was written to Israel. There is nothing spiritual about it. The OT said the messiah would do such and such and Jesus did such and...

Thanks for the heads up. I stand corrected. I edited that post to better conform to the scriptures. All God promised Abraham was the land, the land he could see with his own two eyes. Although it is from that land, Jerusalem and surrounding area, that Jesus will rule his worldwide kingdom...

I agree. The scriptures do not say that. God did not promise Abraham, "the lands of this earth." Here's what they actually say: Gen 13:14-15, 14 And the LORD said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and...

I think the scriptures corroborate all of what you said. It seems simple enough to me when they are read with the simplicity with which they are written. Too much private interpretation is being read into them by too many. But nobody can go beyond what they are taught. The problem is that many...

All very true! But none of those verses help me understand who God's God is (understanding that John 20:17 says Jesus has the same God as you and I). Any verses that might help me with that?

Thanks brother! I share the sentiment of your last sentence. This debate has been going on for 2,000 years and it's not likely to end today unless everybody suddenly believed what I say (or you for that matter), and I don't see that happening anytime soon! :) I think Romans 10:9-10 is the...

Exactly! Now apply that to Phil 2:6, Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: Jesus having the form (appearance) of God does not make him God, any more that an ungodly man who has the form of godliness make him godly. One thing having the form of something...

The same place we were all at before we were born. Matt 1:18, Now the birth (genesis) of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. In any case, few, if any, scholars would say not that...

I agree. It is troubling that membership rolls appear to have taken preminance over true doctrine in too many churches. Paul lamented the same situation that had developed even before he died. Satan has updated his tool box with, "diversity, equity, and inclusion" (as though God hadn't thought...

I see your point and I think it has some validity. However I'm not so sure about the motivation of those who did black face. Here's a list of old actors who did black face: Black Face Entertainers I doubt all of them had a deep belief that whites were superior to blacks, which is an integral...

Black face is when white people paint their face black and mimicked black people in a rather unflattering way. It was not infrequently seen in mainstream entertained not that long ago. Today it has been called out for what it is and largely stopped.

Yes, America and much of the West has become Sodom and Gomorrah. Reminds me of a verse in Genesis; Gen 6:5, And GOD saw that the wickedness of man [was] great in the earth, and [that] every imagination of the thoughts of his heart [was] only evil continually. Every thought, only evil, all the...