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@marks need time to go through this one too, but till then, why did David ask for a pure heart if it was not required under the Old Covenant? That would be his being?

Will get back tomorrow, but till then, could you put it in simple words, where you say we differ on entire sanctification that is, when it occurs and what it means.

Arriving in Tyre during his missionary journeys, Paul stayed there seven days with disciples in Tyre, "who said to Paul *through the Spirit*, that he should NOT go up to Jerusalem." So who was lying here, or getting it wrong?

@Randy Kluth The early church have written so many times that martyrdom was desired by them all. Paul knew that he would be martyred, so why the big fuss about going to Jerusalem? It makes no sense and why on earth were all of his fellows trying to stop him despite it being the will of God...

He may have told the others at the time, that it was an error. Leaving that out of scripture would be one way that God can show who has discernment and who has not, if they seek the truth of it. To them of course, as He already knows our hearts. I am coming at this from a different angle...

Anyone saying this is an attack on Paul, does not understand how the Holy Spirit leads the people of God, nor how we can benefit from Paul's error in our own walk. Anyone seeking guidance knows, that the Spirit does it step by step, though I am not discounting special occasions where He may...

The sacrificial system was for those who operated under the OT law and not the mercy of God, which was the way of such as David who walked by faith..

marks, what do you think of OT David then? He fell into sin, as one of God's children, and we can read two pentitential Psalms 32 and 51 where he pleads with God for forgiveness and a clean heart: "1Have mercy on me, O God, according to your unfailing love; according to your great compassion...

Did God send Paul to Jerusalem? Acts 21:4. God speaks to the Apostle Paul through believers, saying he should not go to Jerusalem but Paul is not listening. He has made up his mind and is hastening to Jerusalem, but the Holy Spirit is speaking to His disciples, giving His express will that Paul...

I agree. How could it be from God that Paul would be taken out of his ministry at that point of history.

@Ritajanice I am not disagreeing on how we are born-again and all it entails. The disagreement is in the proof of it. Proof that cannot be faked and is reality. If we think we cannot be deceived then chances are we are. I am ending this discussion thanks. God bless.

Thank you Ritajanice, we see things differently.

A born again does not sin. A sinner is not born again (anymore or has never been). This is spiritual birth of which we are talking, not a physical birth that cannot be reversed. Jesus said to Nicodemus what is flesh is flesh, what is spirit is spirit. No mixing of categories. To be born *again*...

Yes agree entirely. Yes but we now have the choice whereas before we came to Christ, we do not. Scripture is full of warnings about this very thing. If indeed we are of the Spirit, ie walking therein, we do not sin, in thought word or deed. So when we come to the conundrum of scripture saying...

The physical body ie cells, can only take part in behaviour that is against the will of God, if it is governed by the flesh, the anti-Spiritual power that we are under if we sin and that includes the thoughts as Jesus said. If we are in the Spirit in reality, then the flesh is dead and has no...

The Spirit leads us into all truth which is reality as prescribed by God. If we think we are without sin, yet our thought life betrays that belief then we are not in God's reality.

The spiritual pathway has rules just like anything in the physical realm. We know we are on the right path if we find His dealings in the Israelites and the disciples is similar to ours and matching that of spiritual believers through history. The guideposts will be the same as we are liable to...

The change is to our flesh, that is everything that is against the Spirit, no longer subject to spiritual death or the corruption of sin. Different perspective. Scripture says that glorification is in this life. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them...

Our spirit witnesses that we are born again of God, a new creation, and free from sin.

22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. In the Spirit we are living in reality. Agreed. Flesh being all that is opposed to...