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Sorry to tired to mess around on this old tablet. I can't believe my puter crashed. Oh woe is me

Mark l have to admit that l am not entirely sure how l can explain it atm. The assurance goes missing at times.

Oh l get the 4 x. It is the times l have been in this blessing . One loses it till maturity comes. It is no good trying to work that one out before one has even got to ES.

@Johann the scriptures of the process are in Romans 6 7 & 8.

It is fulfilled when we cannot go on anymore in our lukewarm state and God reveals to us our wretched condition. If we are not there yet we will not be given light. We must set aside time to seek with our whole hearts.

I have just got up to set up my pc where l have files of writings l have done on the subject but it has crashed and is asking for a disc to reinstall and l haven't a clue where it is. It has never happened before so l only have my tablet which is slow.

It is a process which has a fulfillment. Then there is further growth but in holiness not towards it.

I think Mark means l said it 4x?

Deification means to become one with Christ and share in His energies. It does not mean becoming a god.

It is both. I never looked at the eff till a few years ago. I was delighted to find it.

No once

Mark you say yourself you do not see it! If you are ahungering then God will reveal it!

Sorry wrong way round. Not His essence.

Partaking of His nature of essence not His energy. The term is .misunderstood.

Paul is encouraging his readers to go on to perfection not admonishing the already holy

Brothers, you won't see it in a scripture unless you are hungering for holiness like you are starving to death.

I had met Christians for the first time in my life who let me loose in their library. I prayed to God one evening that He would show me if what l was reading was true when suddenly l knew He had died for me on the cross and His presence filled room as o gave my life to Him. That was 50 years ago.

When l first came to Christ, after a profound encounter, l was taught that l was born again and all of the Evangelical stuff which l believed . It was after the baptism that l discovered the difference. It was revealed in scripture then later by the experience of other cessationists.

More later.

The doing it was in perfect submission regarding the subject of the crisis that l had been led into. Oswald Chambers calls it, giving up the right to ourselves. It is right through scripture culminating at Pentecost. No gifts. That was for that period. Fruit though, in abundance.