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    What and when is the rapture Part 2

    Marty, if I may, I have a different take on that. That portion of Rev 19 is chronological but not sequential. It does tell us babylon is destroyed BEFORE the marriage but when? Immediately...or some time before and other things happen in between... The question is: Where does Babylon's...
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    What and when is the rapture Part 2

    1. I'm not sure who I am talking to. You referred to yourself as "us". 2. If I or Marty need to learn anything, the HS will show it to us in HIS time, not ours and certainly not yours. 3. My belief is between God and myself as I am only accountable for myself. You should worry about yourself my...
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    What and when is the rapture Part 2

    Marty has a difference of opinion as do I Enoch. You think he is ignoring biblical truth and I think that God gives truth to those he allows and not to all but in their own time. So it is quite possible God has bestowed something to him and not to you. Instead, perhaps you should try to...
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    What and when is the rapture Part 2

    @Marilyn C After looking back at my reply, I want to apologize. It came off rude and that is not how I meant to portray my response. Sometimes, how we type our words is different than how we mean them. We dont get to see peopels demeanor and body language in these types of settings. My point...
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    What and when is the rapture Part 2

    Yes Marty and I was saying, there is more information on the resurrection of the dead that ties in with that if you know where to look. Hence, take another look at Rev 10 =P
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    What and when is the rapture Part 2

    Forgive me Marty. I meant to say, there was much more information you can use to build a solid framework on your 7th Trumpet theory that was lacking. Perhaps you were saving it for later or perhaps you weren’t aware. I’m unsure. For example, Rev 10. How does it fit in with your theory?
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    What and when is the rapture Part 2

    Wrong! 2 Cor 6:16 for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
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    What and when is the rapture Part 2

    @Marty fox It’s fine to give your opinion on the resurrection of the dead, but you’re missing a lot my friend. You should be able to locate and demonstrate: 1. The Archangel w/the trump of God 2. The last trumpet 3. The Christ descending with a shout 4. The marriage 5. The temple opened and...
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    What and when is the rapture Part 2

    It does not say Jewish temple. Let’s not add to scripture.
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    Our generation will not die before the rapture and the return of Jesus to earth. PTL

    Except Daniel was told, 70 weeks to accomplish. Not 77 weeks. It was even said: spoke with me, saying: “O Daniel, I have come now to give you insight and understanding. This portion wasn’t a riddle, dark speech or in the spirit. He plainly told Daniel what would happen. So there is nothing...
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    Our generation will not die before the rapture and the return of Jesus to earth. PTL

    Don't you think that is dangerous? You are quoting Daniel and if we follow that fulfilled prophecy, we arrive at: And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; I hope you don't think our Lord will but killed a 2nd time?
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    Our generation will not die before the rapture and the return of Jesus to earth. PTL

    See right there, you deviated from the text. If you suggest Israel is the fig tree and it was born in 1948, then all the other trees also must be born in 1948. They were not when the Ottoman Empire partitioned. They have dates spanning all around it rendering a thesis such as that void...
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    Our generation will not die before the rapture and the return of Jesus to earth. PTL

    You make an excellent point David Boyer. For the sake of others reading, notice in verse 6: 6And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him It could have happened at any time, but for the audience, the cry was made at midnight. Why such a late hour...
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    Our generation will not die before the rapture and the return of Jesus to earth. PTL

    Good morning GISMYS_7, In your statement above, what do you think of Matthew 24:29 as it's part of your conclusion. I'll post the verse below. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven...
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    Our generation will not die before the rapture and the return of Jesus to earth. PTL

    You believe Israel is the fig tree do you not? And you said it was born in 1948 right? People that take Luke 21:29 that way must answer the rest. And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees; If you contend Israel was born in 1948, and if you follow this passage, who...
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    Our generation will not die before the rapture and the return of Jesus to earth. PTL

    Tell you what. In 2028, I’ll be looking for every Pre-TBer, when nothing happens, waiting for ALL of them to say, “ I was wrong, I’m not a seer, I’m a farmer, a doctor, a musician” or some other job. When nothing happens, I hope people recognize their mistake and repent. Btw, how many nations...
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    Our generation will not die before the rapture and the return of Jesus to earth. PTL

    I mentioned 1 verse, out of many in my armory. And you have still not addressed it.
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    Our generation will not die before the rapture and the return of Jesus to earth. PTL

    Nothing wrong with that my friend. Search it out, pray about it. Look at all forms of eschatology and search the scriptures for the truth.
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    Return of the Faithful Israelites

    I already know you’ll disagree so you can save your breathe Keraz, but I’m pretty sure this was fulfilled in Christ time when the early Church sprang up in the east and the west where the Apostles ministered. And those that were lost were brought back as the children of God. For we are all...