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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    BTW, what I said in regards to Acts 6:13 below, that does not apply to you nor your view. I'm attempting to kill 2 birds with one stone, so to speak. That being, the holy place isn't meaning the city of Jerusalem in Matthew 24:15 nor is it meaning the 2nd temple. Matthew 24:15 When ye...
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    Scripture Revelation That Many Throw Out About the Future 1,000 Years Reign by Christ

    The fact you are a Premil your view makes zero sense. What do you do with Revelation 20:5 per your view? After all, that's involving a resurrection which means at the beginning of the millennium they remain dead and are not raised from the dead until after the millennium. Except you have them...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    You're thinking like I am. The same logic would be true for the 2nd temple, obviously. To use some of your same words 'You cannot have an abomination that makes desolate sitting or standing in that 'holy place' as it is not holy 40 years after Christ died and rose'. What was your position...
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    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    I don't disagree with you about those 2 chapters 4 and 5. I'm not a Pretribber. My view of Ezekiel 38-39 is that Christ returns during those events and that it is during the DOTL that He executes His judgment on Gog and his multitude. IOW, I see Ezekiel 39:17-20 involving the same events...
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    Is the Judgment Seat of Christ separate from the Great White Throne Judgment?

    Sounds like we could be somewhat on the same page here, the fact, even in our day and time there are still them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie.
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    Is the Judgment Seat of Christ separate from the Great White Throne Judgment?

    That's not how I'm looking at this. I'm looking at there being them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie, still existing in our day and time, but instead of Revelation 19:21 happening to them as well, they are spared and are meaning some of the ones meant...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    AS to that post, only the first paragraph was applicable to that article you submitted. The remainder of that post I was focusing on other things. I tend to do that sometimes, just the way my mind works. I have pretty much been like that my entire life. I can't explain why I'm like that, all I...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    What we need to take note of is where Jesus placed in Matthew 24 what He said in Luke 17. Pertaining to Luke 17:31-33, He placed that during great tribulation. Pertaining to what He said in Luke 17 involving 'and the flood came, and destroyed them all', Jesus placed that involving His 2nd...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Dude, I have missed you. Where have you been at? I was just thinking about you, throughout this thread, and here you are again.
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    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    The post I made before this one might explain how I'm trying to see some of this. I'm almost afraid to ask, lol. What are your thoughts on that post? It would be something if you actually surprised me for once and admitted that maybe I'm on to something here. Except you are not good at...
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    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    I'm at least glad you never used verse 8 to explain verse 7. In the past I have seen others actually do so. Actually then, I agree that what Jesus meant by times and seasons likely involves the DOTL. But in what way would the DOTL involve restoring again the kingdom to Israel? Well, except you...
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    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    Why didn't Jesus bother correcting them about any of these things, assuming they were asking this in vain? Look how He answered them, though---It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. What a bizarre way to answer if what they were asking of...
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    The Coming Rapture

    Assuming you are right and I am wrong, how do you propose the dead in Christ can obtain immortal bodies when that is not even possible until the last trump sounds first? Not only does a pretrib rapture cause issues with the last trump in regards to them, so does the dead in Christ cause issues...
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    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    Acts 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? Which Israel do you think this is referring to? Keeping in mind the text says 'restore again' something that couldnn't possibly apply to the church, as...
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    The Coming Rapture

    You mean the same pretribbers that are raptured in the mortal bodies they are in at the time, then remain in those same mortal bodies until the time of the last trump some years later? No one is changed from a mortal body to an immortal body until the last trump. Which then means every single...
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    Is the Judgment Seat of Christ separate from the Great White Throne Judgment?

    Except I don't interpret these 7 churches in the same manner you might. I think they are applicable all throughout the NT church era involving the past 2000 years though when He returns, not just back then. For example, one of the churches Jesus said this to it--- Repent; or else I will come...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    It is absurd that the AOD meant in the Discourse has anything to do with any of this. Once again, if Matthew 24:15-20 is involving the first century leading up to 70 AD, that means we are required to take everything as literal the fact those events were literal. If the AOD involved the cross...
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    Is the Judgment Seat of Christ separate from the Great White Throne Judgment?

    Your interpretation of this makes no sense. Because of your doctrinal bias you have to deny that a time period post that of the 2nd coming is required in order to fulfill this. Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie...
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    AI in the News? Why Now?

    AI does involve humans training it and then involving weights they call models, where, in some cases they release the weights and the code, thus open source. Which means you can run these things locally on your computer without an internet connection. Assuming you have a pc powerful enough and...
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    AI in the News? Why Now?

    That code is interesting, yet the text says it is the number of a man. Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. On a side note, look at all the bandwidth...