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    Born again believers are NOT appointed to God's wrath ( the great tribulation )

    Matthew 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. Personally, I understand this verse like such, below, since I recognize that to be a Christian does not involve Jews only, but involves Gentiles as well...
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    Was Jerusalem "Babylon the Great" 2,000 years ago?

    Unfortunately, especially in the event you could be correct here, I have no clue what you are meaning here. Maybe you should give us your interpretation of some of REvelation 18, such as the following? So that we can see how it aligns with what you are proposing. Revelation 18:4 And I heard...
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    The 6th seal great tribulation

    Exactly. So much for great tribulation to be involving the first century and 70 AD like some falsely teach. Daniel 12:2 undeniably proves it can't fit that era of time. But that doesn't mean I agree it's during the 6th seal. My view is that it is during the 5th seal. The 6th seal is God's wrath...
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    Was Jerusalem "Babylon the Great" 2,000 years ago?

    I don't know if you are correct or not, but assuming you are, we have to keep in mind Revelation 18:24. Does your view fit with what that verse records? Revelation 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
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    Was Jerusalem "Babylon the Great" 2,000 years ago?

    Revelation 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth. Something else to factor in here is this verse. Is any of this still true today? If any of it is, Babylon the great obviously still exists since I'm pretty certain the...
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    Was Jerusalem "Babylon the Great" 2,000 years ago?

    Exactly. It would be a contradiction in that case the fact old Jerusalem can still be found even in our day and age.
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    Was Jerusalem "Babylon the Great" 2,000 years ago?

    If that's true, and the fact this same Jerusalem is back on the map again, so to speak, how then would that make the following true? Revelation 18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be...
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    A discussion I just had recently with Chatgpt involving Daniel 7.

    This means you too see Daniel 7:12 parenthetical rather than it meaning their lives are prolonged after the 4th beast is destroyed, right? IOW, you see no connection with verse 12 with that of verse 27 in regards the these other beasts? Someone has to fulfill that though, meaning this---and all...
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    Born again believers are NOT appointed to God's wrath ( the great tribulation )

    All I know is, what Jesus said in regards to Noah's day would support no survivors. While what He said in regards to Lot's day would not support no survivors. Why would He then use one example that suports no survivors then use another example that doesn't? No doubt, there were no survivors...
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    Born again believers are NOT appointed to God's wrath ( the great tribulation )

    1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must...
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    Born again believers are NOT appointed to God's wrath ( the great tribulation )

    Am I really? Especially since Pretrib is not even true to begin with. It might be different if there was a chance that Pretrib might be true. The chance of Pretrib being true is zero. What about what you are? You want someone else to take your place for you. You want someone else to have to be...
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    Born again believers are NOT appointed to God's wrath ( the great tribulation )

    Great post! There is nothing in that post that I might disagree with. Very well reasoned. Can't imagine anyone disagreeing with it. But, unfortunately, some will.
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    The Great Second Exodus

    Clearly, once Christ returns, only saved saints which will be including both Jew and Gentile Christians will be living in and occupying that region. There certainly won't be any unbelieving Jews still living there and occupying that region at that point. But that is as of the 2nd coming, and...
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    Born again believers are NOT appointed to God's wrath ( the great tribulation )

    Actually, it doesn't matter when great tribulation might be meaning or might not be meaning. That is irrelevant because no matter how you look a it, the last trump is always going to mean post great tribulation, even if great tribulation was 2000 years ago or is meaning in the final days of this...
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    A discussion I just had recently with Chatgpt involving Daniel 7.

    After having done some fast researching after submitting post#38 , apparently, I might be wrong about chatgpt not remembering who you are. And the reason why I might be wrong is because I never log into chatgpt to begin with. But if one does log in, thus has an account, apparently there are...
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    Born again believers are NOT appointed to God's wrath ( the great tribulation )

    That of course only makes sense per post trib, certainly not per pretrib. Because, after all, what you have just described here can only happen during the last trump(1 Corinthians 15:51-57) . And clearly, the last trump is not meaning before great tribulation, it is meaning after great...
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    A discussion I just had recently with Chatgpt involving Daniel 7.

    When I say understands me, I'm basically meaning that it understands the points I'm trying to make at the time, that it's able to follow my line of reasoning regardless how poor my writing skills might be at times. In this case, mainly pertaining to how I myself might interpret this or that...
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    A discussion I just had recently with Chatgpt involving Daniel 7.

    What we really need to worry about is not what it is right now but what it might become as technology increases further. We might have something to really worry about at that point. Currently, me being me where I'm often misunderstood and sometimes not understood at all, I find it refreshing...
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    Born again believers are NOT appointed to God's wrath ( the great tribulation )

    Hold on there a moment now. We're talking about what happened in Lot's day, not what happened in Noah's day, since it was Lot's day I was questioning you about, not Noah's day. I fully agree Noah's flood was global yet you falsely accuse me of insisting it's local. That's a lie on your part...
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    A discussion I just had recently with Chatgpt involving Daniel 7.

    Just like anything else chatgpt can be used for good or bad. For example. Someone wanting to know the recipe of something or maybe even creating a new unique recipe, I don't see how that might be a bad thing.