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Also read post 23 and 25. I'd say that you're correct in post 25 where you state that doctrinal belief will not be salfivific factor. No one can know who is saved and who is not except for God. In 1 Cor 15 Paul states that one must believe what he taught. But this will only be valide for those...

Yes. I agree. Present tense... exactly how I would understand John to be teaching. We are abiding now... we are not sinning now... do not sin while you are abiding. Those that know Him will not sin... not that they cannot sin,, but they will not want to sin. John does hold the possibility to...

I agree. Those that believed in vain.... this means that they never had salvific faith... they never believed what Paul was teaching. There are two groups of people here: One believed and Paul is telling them to Hold Fast their faith. The other group never believed....their belief was in...

Not only can your name be blotted out of the Book of Life... but what about all the warnings Paul gives? To say nothing of what Jesus teaches. I'm trying to concentrate right now on 1 Cor 15:1-2 Do you think that those that believed in vain NEVER believed or do you think they believed at one...

I agree. 1 John 3:7-10 . 7Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous; 8the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the...

When I post I'm not hoping to prove anything. I go by what plain scripture states and I do not bring my theology to it. I did say that you were to leave your theology behind and just do the language in the text. The very fact that you're asking me this shows that you have not done so and this...

Yes. The above will require some time. I think we're speaking past each other. I agree with you. Have company. Later.

Hi Lambano, I did want to reply to the above but been too busy. You don't like the PRACTICES rendition of 1 John 3:9 OK But if it means just comitting sins and it does NOT refer to a lifestyle... doesn't that conflict with John in 1 John 1:9? In 1 J 1:9 he's staying we can be forgiven for...

It's an interesting question RLT... Try to leave your theology behind... and answer this: Re 1 Cor 15:2 1 Corinthians 15:1-2 NASB 1Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, 2by which also you are saved, if...

Hi RLT Sorry for delay. I asked you to whom 1 John 2:19 is adressed. John is speaking to believers and calling them LITTLE CHILDREN... but he is most certainly not addressing the little children. Care to try again? or I'll give you the answer. John is addressing those that left the group of...

Get me a cup. I've asked 2 Greek scholars and 2 others for comments. I think this one is not so clear cut and may have to be declared neutral. I'm not sure but I refuse to bring my belief to the verse. We'll see.

Oh my.... can I possible be in the same room with MAILMANDAN ETERNALLY GRATEFUL RLT63 :running:

NOT you too RLT.... You seem like such an intelligent guy. Let's see if you could regain your reputation: WHO was 1 John 2:19 addressing?

I know what you mean about being a daughter of God/child of God... I just cannot relate it to what I posted. But, no matter, I'm getting tired here and should leave.

I don't know Dan. You may be right on this. :eek: I did ask and I did get a reply. And I don't see any moolah coming my way. As a second prize... how about you put on that flowery shirt and get on that horse??

If he knows them then it's OK? :hmhehm

You're a tough cookiie!

so before they turned they had the truth... then they turned from it. They turned from faith.

Well, RC is gone.

Not only the end of eternal security... it's much worse. HOW could any reformed/calvinist believer know for sure that they are really saved? I can know I'm saved because I CHOOSE to be. IF God does the choosing,,,,how do I know for certain that He chose me? RC Sproul and John Piper are asked...