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  1. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Because it doesn't describe adequately like a Greek word agathos.
  2. M

    Why trust the "Early Fathers?"

    And somehow you and scholars have documentation for this. I have heard Athanasius used the same canon as Justin Martyr. It doesn't sound like there was much debate in some circles. None of them Roman Catholic because they didn't know Greek. You counted the anthropomorphism to 2 times, but the...
  3. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    When it comes to Heb and Grk, the in-words en, bet- are not translated enough as at. So, you may be right partially. But for an instance like something being the instrument, dia is used with the genitive for an action. Dia means through or with instrumentally in the genitive case. I think I have...
  4. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    And I meant instrumental genitive. But let us look up Luke 22.49 and 1 Cor. 4:21: We shall smite them at, in, or with the sword. By is not even considered. But if εν μαχαίρᾳ means at the blade; it can be argued only the sword, spear or blade is instrumental. When I see a dative prepositional...
  5. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    You mean instrumental genitive. Dative is a secondary result of a verb, and your proof is weak, and your book is not properly adjusted to the internet.
  6. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Datives are not instrumental, but the genitive can be. Under a prince of demons, or in the prince of the demons would be much better. They were defaming God's authority, saying Jesus couldn't do this under the power of God. I see how saying by rather than in or at is interpretative. it could be...
  7. M

    PETER AND PAUL AND THE KINGDOM

    Some wake up to life, and some to hell.
  8. M

    PETER AND PAUL AND THE KINGDOM

    Do you believe that God is waking the dead as we speak?
  9. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    How do you get past the use of the dative which is known to receive actions unlike the genitive?
  10. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    But if we check a lexicon, and it has to be Thayer's. to become, i.e. to come into existence, begin to be, receive being to become, i.e. to come to pass, happen of events to arise, appear in history, come upon the stage of men appearing in public to be made, finished of miracles, to be...
  11. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Perhaps you reconsider terseness. I will endeavor to rebut you as much as I can when yours needs it.
  12. M

    Why trust the "Early Fathers?"

    That one church has be to Syrian, Coptic, Russian, Greek, or Roman Orthodox. The Syrians and the Copts are full blown Heretics. The Russians undervalue you precious Mary idols, and the Eastern and Greek Orthodox can over Heresies of the Roman Catholics. Oh, and I think the Pope is rich like...
  13. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Johann typed: Colossians 1:16 ὅτι ἐν αὐτῷ ἐκτίσθη τὰ πάντα "For by Him all things were created" ἐν always means at or into; never 'by'. Strong's might disagree, but that one misrender changes the whole passage. RSV, YLT, and ASV render it in. The Kingdom of God had place in him and for him...
  14. M

    Why trust the "Early Fathers?"

    Somehow you have proof no one had the proper canon?
  15. M

    Why trust the "Early Fathers?"

    But "Jesus" was the second word, and it became flesh rather than was made flesh. Unscriptural, and unsupported. Valentinus believed experiences given by words gave life. This is not true in the physical sense, and was true in a temporal sense. Like a neo Passover reception of manna.
  16. M

    Why trust the "Early Fathers?"

    Preterism is part of proper New Testament interpretation. You might as well state the trinity doctrine is totally proven.
  17. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    The second-best thing is to confuse them with details which aren't important. Like the trinity doctrine.
  18. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I wouldn't deny they are doctrines of confusion and demons.
  19. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    You really need to research Valentinus and the Valentinians.
  20. M

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    The Father and the HS can't do anything much without Metatron is the rumour.