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  1. Wick Stick

    Is the story of Noah literal?

    Moses destroyed the giants in Bashan (Og) and Gilead (Sihon) and Caleb destroyed the ones in Hebron. David killed Goliath. What other giants escaped annihilation?
  2. Wick Stick

    unofficial gods:

    I suspect that it's built on a kernel of truth... God mostly works through people. The more people are following his instructions, the more is getting done. Also true of any king or leader of men.
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    Is the Bible polytheistic? - Are there many gods, or only one?

    It's treason. If the gods are partisan, which each having their own cities, then worshiping "other gods" is the same thing as conspiring with other cities or tribes or nations.
  4. Wick Stick

    Is the story of Noah literal?

    I'm not sure it's exactly hidden, but yes... God commissioned Israel to wipe out the remnant of the giants - all the nephilim, rephaim, and anakim.
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    Is the story of Noah literal?

    Acts 7 quotes the same verse. But the point there is that the Israelites always do things God doesn't command. They make sacrifices that weren't commanded. They built a temple, when a tabernacle was what God commanded. It even says that part of God's punishment was... 42 Then God turned...
  6. Wick Stick

    Is the story of Noah literal?

    So, you didn't read it, then? Or maybe more likely, you're trying hard to ignore the meaning... Also... we are SO off-topic. If you want to continue this, let's do so in a new topic. Or an old one... I'm sure there's a bunch of them on Biblical contradictions.
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    Is the story of Noah literal?

    It's not a matter of a single verse here or there. Leviticus chapters 1-9 prescribes 5 different sacrifices, including the sin offering and trespass offering for those who have done wrong, and the Red Heifer sacrifice on the Day of Atonement. Amos 5 says God didn't prescribe ANY sacrifices...
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    Is the story of Noah literal?

    True or False: God wanted the Israelites to offer Him sacrifices
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    Is the story of Noah literal?

    Even the contradictions? Especially the contradictions?
  10. Wick Stick

    Is the claim of only one God false? - How many gods are there?

    mo·nol·a·try /məˈnälətrē/ noun 1. the worship of one god without denial of the existence of other gods.
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    Sweeping the Polytheism of Ancient Israel Under the Rug

    The math is unexpectedly difficult. 12 natural sons. 12 territories. But... 1 Reuben 2 Simeon 3 Levi 4 Judah 5 Dan 6 Naphtali 7 Gad 8 Asher 9 Issachar 10 Zebulun 11 Joseph 11 Benjamin 12 Manasseh 13 Ephraim Joseph was adopted by Pharoah, which in Hebrew thinking makes him not-a-son-anymore...
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    Sweeping the Polytheism of Ancient Israel Under the Rug

    There's a list in Genesis 10.
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    Sweeping the Polytheism of Ancient Israel Under the Rug

    I've recently been reading Poems of Ancient Ugarit and something I've learned there is relevant here, but maybe a little theologically awkward. "Son of God" is a Canaanite regnal title. The Canaanites envisioned the kings of their city-states as being sons of their high god - sons of El. When...
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    Is the Bible polytheistic? - Are there many gods, or only one?

    Correct. Every city and nomadic tribe in the Late Bronze/Early Iron ages had a patron deity. National rivalries were most often envisaged as conflicts between the gods of those cities/tribes. The Bible is consistent with ancient inscriptions in this regard - it envisions YHVH triumphing over...
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I think we might be talking past each other. Like, this seems generically true. No disagreement. But what does it have to do with Israel's transition from polytheism to monotheism, or the quoted bit of Deuteronomy that I was talking about?
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    The ones the Israelites were worshiping before Moses (but also after) - Hathor, Molech, Dagon, Baal, Asherah, etc.
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    With difficulty. There isn't really any place in ancient history where we can point out a polytheistic society that just up and abandons polytheism in favor of monotheism. Instead, what tends to happen is that one God sort of absorbs the others until there's just One left. Often, the cults of...
  18. Wick Stick

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I read it as a gnostic statement. More of... "Hey guys, you know all those different 'gods' that you worship? Those are all just aspects of ME."
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I tried to explain this in a topic about a month ago, and people got out their pitchforks and torches. Nonetheless, here goes... There are a couple... issues... in the verse. First, Elohim isn't necessarily singular, in spite of the usual translation. Second, Hebrew grammar demands that the...
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Depends on the context.... A statement of "the Lord is One" doesn't seem to carry that implication (at least in English). But what about "I and My Father are One?" There's something going on in that statement that doesn't match up very well with elementary-school mathematics.