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  1. Douggg

    Four questions makes me a robot

    No, nothing in Daniel 11:36-12:12 is at the time of Antiochus IV. Daniel 11:36-12:12 is time of the end. Everyone, but you, believes that we are living in the time of the end when Jesus returns. Daniel 11:36-12:12 is not historical but time of the end as the verses say. Daniel 12:2...
  2. Douggg

    The "watch rapture view"

    So, in your view the other six vials of God's wrath are poured out before the day that Jesus returns. Therefore, verse 10 of 1Thessalonians5:9-11 must be before then. Meaning the resurrection/rapture of verse 10 must be before the six other vials of God's wrath are poured out. Thus, your...
  3. Douggg

    Four questions makes me a robot

    Antiochus IV is in Daniel 11:31. Historic abomination of desolation event. A few verses later is Daniel 11:35 that transitions to the time of the end. "time of the end" is in the verse. Everything from Daniel 11:36 to Daniel 12:12 is time of the end. The king in Daniel 11:36 is the...
  4. Douggg

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Hi Exegesis, Your approach is that of a day as a year ? Therefore, 1260 days of the two witnesses is 1260 years ? One of the problems of a day as a year, such as in the case of the two witnesses is that after being killed their bodies lay dead in the streets of Jerusalem 3 1/2 days, as...
  5. Douggg

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. Jesus returns on...
  6. Douggg

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    @rebuilder 454 @The Light Them in Revelation 7:9, the great multitude, are great tribulation saints who die during the great tribulation time frame. Some by being martyred; others for other reasons, such as sickness, or because of environmental stress of the plagues. What John saw was their...
  7. Douggg

    The "watch rapture view"

    Luke 21:20 20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. Davy, verse 20 says that Jerusalem will be made desolate. Verse 20 cannot be referring to the end times that we presently live - because Jesus is returning to Jerusalem, that...
  8. Douggg

    The "watch rapture view"

    Luke 21:22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. Davy, verse 22 is referring to all things written about the destruction of the city (Jerusalem) in Daniel 9:26. @Davidpt was correct that verse 21-23 led up to the destruction of the city...
  9. Douggg

    The "watch rapture view"

    Are the seven vials of God's wrath in Revelation poured out before or after the day Jesus returns in Revelation 19 ?
  10. Douggg

    The "watch rapture view"

    So using that logic (in blue), you believe that the rapture will happen before God's wrath is poured out in the 7 vials of God's wrath during the great tribulation ? 1Thessalonians5: 9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 Who died for us...
  11. Douggg

    The "watch rapture view"

    If that were true, then why did Jesus say for them in Judaea to flee to the mountains when they see Jerusalem surrounding by armies in Luke 2120-21 ? You don't understand, Jesus was the cure for the Jews problem of Roman rule and occupation. The Jews did not embrace Jesus as the cure. So...
  12. Douggg

    The "watch rapture view"

    No text says that God put it into the hearts of the Romans to destroy Jerusalem and the temple. The Romans destroyed Jerusalem and the temple because of the Jews rebellion against Roman rule and occupation.
  13. Douggg

    Four questions makes me a robot

    Daniel 12:11-12 is time of the end. Daniel 12:9. The daily sacrifice is referring to the two lambs sacrificed daily, one in the morning, one in the evening. Exodus 29:38-41. There will have to be a temple present for the daily sacrifice to take place again.
  14. Douggg

    The "watch rapture view"

    I don't consider you wicked (verse 10). But verse 10 says the wise shall understand. I have a timeline chart of the 1290 days and 1335th day, show below of the 1290 days and 1335th day. And what takes place in between.. 9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and...
  15. Douggg

    The "watch rapture view"

    I already gave my interpretation of Matthew 22:1-7 several posts back. Luke 19:41-44, Jesus is saying to the Pharisees (of verse 39) that because they didn't acknowledge him (Jesus) as the messiah (who by His power could remove the Romans (their enemies) from their land), that instead they were...
  16. Douggg

    The "watch rapture view"

    You are backing up your claim with your interpretation of scripture. I am backing up my position with my interpretation of scripture and historical fact. Google "the Jewish Roman wars" for historical fact. Why can't you accept historical fact that the Romans destroyed Jerusalem and the...
  17. Douggg

    The "watch rapture view"

    The Romans did not destroy the city and temple because they (the Romans) were angry because the Jews rejection of Jesus. The Romans destroyed the city and temple because the Jews rebelled against Roman rule and occupation. There were 3 major revolts by Jews against Roman rule and occupation...
  18. Douggg

    The "watch rapture view"

    No, the Jews were revolting Roman control and occupation. There were a series of Jewish vs Romans wars. The Jews rejection of Jesus was not a reason for the Romans to surround the city, and overcome the Jews who were rebelling, to destroy the city and sanctuary.
  19. Douggg

    The "watch rapture view"

    The Romans destroyed the temple and the sanctuary. The prince who shall come is associated with the Romans. Jesus was a Jew, not associated with the Romans.. And since you agree that the abomination of desolation set up of Daniel 12:11-12 has not been fulfilled yet, when and under what...
  20. Douggg

    The "watch rapture view"

    Daniel 9:26 is referring to the temple and city destroyed in 70ad. But Daniel 9:27 is end times, when the prince that shall come from the people who destroyed the temple and city confirms the covenant for 7 years. The reference to abominations is in Daniel 9:27, the end times 7 years...