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  1. Douggg

    The "watch rapture view"

    Paul's statements were relevant to all nations at the time of Paul. Not to all nations that exist in the end times, which include the western hemisphere nations. The process to spread the gospel to all nations and then the end comes has been over the course of the past 2000 years.
  2. Douggg

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Yes the king in the parable represents God. And the king's son represents Jesus. And the bad guys in the parable represent the high priests and Pharisees. But I don't think the parable means that it is an expression of God's wrath that the series Jewish/Roman wars took place. The wars...
  3. Douggg

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    No, I disagree. Jesus is going to destroy the armies surrounding Jerusalem. That is what He reaps with a sharp sickle. btw, I use Corel Paint Shop Pro to make charts, diagrams, and graphics. If you get that and learn how to use it (fun process) and get efficient and creative at it -...
  4. Douggg

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Yes, I agree.
  5. Douggg

    The "watch rapture view"

    I did not say "immediately". I show on my Olivet Discourse chart all of the verses in the order of the text. I have not asked you to make your version of the chart because I know that you don't have computer graphics program skills to make charts. But I did ask you to type what verses fit...
  6. Douggg

    The "watch rapture view"

    right. Daniel 8:13 is action by the little horn. The little horn person becomes the Antichrist.
  7. Douggg

    The "watch rapture view"

    In my post 191, I copied and pasted from the kjv all of the verses that fit between Luke 21:24 and Matthew 24:15 with Jesus's words highlighted in red. There is nothing to add, nothing to take away. No. Luke 21:20 starts off with Jerusalem surrounded with armies. Luke 21:20 is 70 ad...
  8. Douggg

    The "watch rapture view"

    Transgression is an act. The Transgression of Desolation is the act that the Antichrist will commit as described in 2Thessalonians2:4, a sit in the temple act in the Holy of Holies room. Differently, the Abomination of Desolation will be set up (Daniel 12:11). It will basically be an idol...
  9. Douggg

    The "watch rapture view"

    Daniel 8:13 is the transgression of desolation, not abomination of desolation. And it is time of the end. Daniel 8:17. So the verse is not referring to Antiochus 4. Matthew 24:14 precedes Matthew 24:15-21. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a...
  10. Douggg

    The "watch rapture view"

    Randy, you are saying that Matthew 24:15-21 is the 70ad event. And that the Roman Army is the Abomination of Desolation that Daniel spoke about. Daniel spoke about the abomination of desolation in Daniel 12:11-12 to take place at the time of the end. Daniel 12:4, Daniel 12:9. Daniel said...
  11. Douggg

    The "watch rapture view"

    @Spiritual Israelite reminder. I gave my position in my chart of the Olivet Discourse. I am waiting for you to respond with what verses you think should go under these three categories. near term - while Israel was under occupancy, leading up to the 70ad destruction of the temple. long...
  12. Douggg

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    imo, no. imo, no.
  13. Douggg

    The "watch rapture view"

    Jesus's word in red. Luke 21: 24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. 25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the...
  14. Douggg

    The "watch rapture view"

    Randy, you made references to Matthew 24, the Olivet Discourse chapter. Here is my chart of the Olivet Discourse. So, what I would like for you to do, Randy, is place the verses as you view them that are near term, long term, and end times. Down below with the question marks. near term -...
  15. Douggg

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Matthew 22:7 is part of a parable. My opinion is that Matthew 22:7 is referring to to the high priests and pharisees. Now can we drop it ? You have your view of how that parable applies regarding the destruction of Jerusalem and I have mine.
  16. Douggg

    The "watch rapture view"

    You asked me what Jesus said between Luke 21:24 and Matthew 24:15. Everything that Jesus said is in the text itself in red in the remainder of Luke 21 and in Matthew 24 to verse 15. Go to the kjv online site and read all that text. I hope you start using that site because the text of what...
  17. Douggg

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    I don't want to keep repeating myself. We simply have different opinions.
  18. Douggg

    The "watch rapture view"

    I have already responded by directing you to the kjv online site and reading Luke 21 and Matthew 24 for what Jesus said, identified by the red text. The bible gateway site does not have Jesus's words in red text.
  19. Douggg

    The "watch rapture view"

    https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Luke-Chapter-21/ It is a great site. You can also do word and phrase searchs there.
  20. Douggg

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    In my opinion, no, because there were believers in Jesus killed during the Jewish-Romans war as well. We simply disagree. I am not trying to force you to agree with my opinion.