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  1. PinSeeker

    What is "OSAS"?

    You say that as if I don't... :) Yes, wrong ones... :) Yes, right ones... :) Agreed. :) Very ambiguous. :) Some of the specific issues that they addressed were different. If you think they disagreed on anything specific, then it would help if you identified those things, instead of...
  2. PinSeeker

    What is "OSAS"?

    Because they were not called by God. So they never were saved, and eventually proved it, to themselves and to others. This is what John says in 1 John 2:19, that unbelievers "went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went...
  3. PinSeeker

    What is "OSAS"?

    That's true, but listen to what the prophet Joel, whom John and Paul specifically reference/echo, who quotes God Himself: “And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh; your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, and your...
  4. PinSeeker

    What is "OSAS"?

    Ugh. It was really a rhetorical question, Scott. See my reply to Taken above. Over-complicating things is... tiresome. :) Grace and peace to you.
  5. PinSeeker

    What is "OSAS"?

    Well, yes... and no. It depends on the context you put that statement in. If you are saying it in the same way that Paul, in Romans 7, says "it is no longer I who sin, but sin that dwells within me," then I agree. :) Right. It was really a rhetorical question. Grace and peace to you.
  6. PinSeeker

    What is "OSAS"?

    LOL! So the Catholic narrative goes... "Started an entire new teaching of salvific beliefs..." Wow. We will agree, for sure, that the Reformers wanted to change a lot of non-Biblical teachings/understandings that were (and still are; there is nothing new under the sun) out there. But...
  7. PinSeeker

    What is "OSAS"?

    I'll ask it a different, even simpler way, Scott. Do you believe you no longer sin, that you are now sinless? Grace and peace.
  8. PinSeeker

    What is "OSAS"?

    I said regarding what we are/were talking about here, namely soteriology, the doctrine of salvation. Many would agree with you, in the same vein as Pelagius and Jacobus Arminius, as I said. Not nearly all Protestants ~ especially here in the West ~ follow the principles of the Reformation or...
  9. PinSeeker

    What is "OSAS"?

    Okay, well, very well. Neither am I (regurgitating anything), and so did I (gave the reasons for what I asserted), and neither did I (quote a Catholic source... or a Protestant one). Oh, and regarding what we're talking about here, merely branding what I'm saying as "Protestant doctrine" is...
  10. PinSeeker

    What is "OSAS"?

    I... don't think you do... :) Well, they wrote what they wrote... As I said, the Word of God is what it is. I... decided what to accept about what is written, yes. In the very same sense in which you speak here, I would assert that you are "regurgitating" what your Catholic men have taught...
  11. PinSeeker

    What is "OSAS"?

    Okay, well... not intentional... Well, which law are you talking about, Mary? And if you see that as evading your question, I would refer you back to my previous post (#135), which may cause you to see the relevance of my question here. I did. I referred to what Paul also said in Romans 11...
  12. PinSeeker

    What is "OSAS"?

    LOL! <eyeroll> LOL! The Word of God is what it is. Like Dave Mason sang, there's only you and me and we just disagree. :) And that's... okay. :) Grace and peace to you.
  13. PinSeeker

    What is "OSAS"?

    One of them, yes. But you referred to what James said. And I would assert that Paul did not contradict what James said, nor did James contradict what Paul said. My men... LOL! Paul was a man, yes, and so was James... LOL! Ah yes, context. Yours? :) What you assert that context is? :)...
  14. PinSeeker

    What is "OSAS"?

    In that verse, Scott... well, I'll just quote it and then comment and a question: "No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God." (1 John 3:9) Comment: One can do something without actually making...
  15. PinSeeker

    What is "OSAS"?

    Ah, James. Yes, so it should be very clear that works honored by God are a result of the faith through which we are saved given them by God in His mercy and grace, rather than a means of receiving it, a means of meriting it, because in that case, God's grace would not be grace ~ unmerited favor...
  16. PinSeeker

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    No, I'm just not sure what you mean by "a gathering"... what you're referring to. There are... many gatherings, described in varying degrees and for various purposes, all throughout the Bible. But again, I'd have to know what you're specifically talking about, or referring to. Ah, you're just...
  17. PinSeeker

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Well, I have, many times, but you seem incapable of just congenially disagreeing with anybody. Well at this point, with what you keep coming back at me with, all I can do is laugh... and I'm being quite serious in saying that. And honestly, Rebuilder, in many, many ways, you've brought it on...
  18. PinSeeker

    Why the difference?

    Hmmm... Maybe so... Hmmm... I might point out Ezekiel 11:19-20 and Ezekiel 36:26-27 ~ and Hebrews 11 ~ and disagree with what you say here based at least on that... Grace and peace to you.
  19. PinSeeker

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    LOL! Sigh... You mean where on earth? I mean... <eyeroll>... The meek will inherit the earth... There will probably be lots and lots and lots of post-judgment gatherings... :) Yeah, now I have no idea where your mind is going. And don't care, really. Well, it depends on what...