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@Johann no not one. God has made it this way as we are not to function as lone wolves. So He gives to each of us a part of the spiritual landscape. I don't mean basics. Even Paul did not know if all and said if it was his own tboughts. We also grow in our understanding over time.

We can find anything we want to in the early teachings. It requires great discernment but they are extremely helpful, the ones that is, that were faithful in carrying forward the spoken teachings of the apostles and their disciples. They spoke the same language for a start and understood the...

@Johann Ye are witnesses, and God also, how holily and justly and unblameably we behaved ourselves among you that believe: 1Thess 2:10

Paul is speaking here of what he knew was ahead - his martyrdom. The early church longed for this as the high calling. This is the perfection Paul speaks of. He goes on to say that those who are perfect - indeed it is true - should embrace this point of view. And if you think differently about...

@marks what do you understand about the warnings in Hebrews? Don't they make clear that here is a danger of falling away?

I am grateful @Johann brother, for the Bible teachers and exergesis I learned in my Reformed days. It has given me a very good grounding even though I think they were wrong in their interpretation of certain matters in TULIP. I was trained in how to go deeply into the scriptures although they...

It is very rare today that any reach Theosis. It is the only extraordinary experience that I consider valid for the believer.

They say the same as Paul though without sharing exactly what they discovered which is unutterable. The experience is the same for all who enter into His rest.

Sister not brother thanks. Various ecf wrote on the subject, and described how a man's senses are overwhelmed by the entrance to paradise so that he barely knows what is happening. Here is Chrysostom: https://biblehub.com/commentaries/chrysostom/2_corinthians/12.htm

I think he was saying that there were things concerning God's character that are so wonderful that they cannot be shared with the unenlightened rather than that they were 'unlawful'. Jesus said that there were things that He couldn't share because people were unable to bear them.

Yes this is what the early church taught. I had forgotten about that. The steps would sometimes blend in to each other and sometimes a reversal for some time. Thanks for that, it explains some things for me to. But there is mainly a progression according to how submitted we are to Christ. I see...

You've got a point. I don't know what to make of it all myself, but am very open to what the man said and what was seen on the vid of security shooting at the time Trump fell. I think it could be so.

Agree.

Apologies, I see it now. They of course are interpreting to their own theology and as I hope I have shown, there is not just one interpretation. I 'got it' last night in bed. Yes it's a good analogy and also how the early church understood it, that we go through a reception of the Word...

Sister. Thank you. God bless.

https://old.bitchute.com/video/iVtzRnMHFVU9/

Only if it is correctly understood - which it is not. It does not mean that a man can never sin again. It does not give a man the same attributes as God. It means that a man is able to not sin, but he can fall from that. I have been walking in that previously, about four times, once for 18...

@Johann I fully understand your position as it was the one I held onto for a lot of my 50 years as a believer after a profound conversion experience from atheism. I will present my case and how I interpret scripture but there is little chance in fact no chance of me reverting to my previous...

Paul, a minister of holiness, spoke a lot in his letters to those who were not yet in Christ though they were disciples.

Scripture: "Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is." Explanation: This passage suggests a future transformation into the likeness of Christ, aligning with...