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  1. Timtofly

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    The first resurrection is the only physical resurrection you will ever have. Stop hijacking biblical terms. Revelation 20 is not saying there is a hierarchy of physical resurrections where the beheaded are more important than those a thousand years later. Revelation 20 is not even saying...
  2. Timtofly

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    So those in Revelation 20:4, were not born again until years, months, weeks, or days after they were physically beheaded. People are beheaded instead of receiving the mark, 42 months prior to this resurrection mentioned. Not all at the same time, nor was it a constant slaughter every minute...
  3. Timtofly

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    No, you falsely believe that Jesus is the only first resurrection period. This has nothing to do with 2 Timothy 2:18. You are wrong to say the physical resurrection found in Matthew 27 is not the first resurrection and that those in Revelation 20:4 are not physically resurrected. Both those...
  4. Timtofly

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Now can you find in the OT in the writings of Moses, and the prophets that backs up your interpretation of "Christ, thee first resurrection"?
  5. Timtofly

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    We will never know which resurrection they were referring to then. No one should ever use this verse to prove any current doctrine, because no one even knows what resurrection was being addressed. It is wrong to deny the first resurrection is a physical resurrection. To say the first...
  6. Timtofly

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Amil do declare that Revelation 20:4-6 is in the past by the same logic you claim it has not happened yet. That being the actual timing of Revelation 20. Sure, they do not deny a future resurrection. They are not full preterist, just messed up partial preterist denying a resurrection that...
  7. Timtofly

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Revelation 6 is not the same event as Revelation 19. That is your erroneous opinion without any Scripture to back it up. Human correlation is not God's Word. Theology can lead the church astray for over a thousand years. God does not kill humans for teaching false doctrine and theology...
  8. Timtofly

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    The 3.5 years are shortened, so could be as short as 5 months of torment when the first woe is unleashed on mankind. Satan's 42 months is not time cut in half. Those 42 months is time added after the 7th Trumpet if there are any humans who choose to be beheaded. Only God will know when the...
  9. Timtofly

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    Jesus is on the earth with His angels during Jacob's Trouble, which is the first 6 Trumpets. There is no 7 year period mentioned anywhere in Scripture as an end time series of events. Jesus is the 70th week. For 3.5 years Jesus was the Messiah. Then He was cut off, by ascending to...
  10. Timtofly

    HELLUCINATIONS

    Why do you use the word "Christian" to make your point? Was Abraham a Christian? Was Moses a Christian? Was Daniel a Christian? All people are going to die after the 6th Seal is opened. This is not about persecution nor martyrdom. The church is removed at the 5th Seal, because Jesus and...
  11. Timtofly

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    The whole reason you are wrong, is that these beheaded are beheaded after the Second Coming. You have them beheaded prior to the Second Coming, which is impossible. Did you know that only God can birth you into God's family, not you? If those people who will be beheaded had the second...
  12. Timtofly

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    Sorry but God's permanent incorruptible physical body is made in heaven by God, not from dust of the earth. No dust is going to be reconstituted for those with the second birth. They have already passed from death to life, and are only waiting for the soul to leave this dead body, made of...
  13. Timtofly

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    These verses not only apply to ages, but the resurrection as well. The resurrection is not limited to ages as Amil imply. There are also different ages and there is no such thing as an eternal age. Paul stated: "That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his...
  14. Timtofly

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    You have the wrong description of physical death for those of the second birth, even though many think Paul meant those asleep are still physically dead. No, no one in Christ is still physically dead in Paradise. Nor do they "sleep", as why would a permanent incorruptible physical body need...
  15. Timtofly

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    This is totally misrepresenting premil, even if almost every premil believes this. You all seem to believe this as well, so worse than premil. All premil states, as a simple single basic principle; is that Jesus is announced King over all nation's at the 7th Trumpet, and will continue to...
  16. Timtofly

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    It is difficult to get Amil to see that being made alive is having both a soul and physical body. A soul is dead and in death in Adam's dead corruptible flesh, and also dead not having a physical body. Being physically dead is a soul not having God's permanent incorruptible physical body...
  17. Timtofly

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    Continued.. Now consider how these future humans are beheaded and when. You claim they were beheaded prior to the first advent, as they were given life during those thousand years you claim have already exceeded 1900+ years. Or they are just symbolic, and not really people, not really dead...
  18. Timtofly

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    You have failed again. The dead were resurrected at the Cross. There has been a 1994 year gap between the first resurrection of the OT out of Abraham's bosom, and even the Second Coming. Can you find any corroborate Scripture that declares Jesus will return in 2,000 years? Was the Cross...
  19. Timtofly

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    And you and amil company are wrong, because water is the physical, and you all deny a physical body in Paradise. One cannot even enter Paradise unless they have God's permanent incorruptible physical body. That is why they waited as souls in Abraham's bosom. Certainly a soul would have...
  20. Timtofly

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    Paul never wrote that any where in Scripture. That is your own imagination at work. Those under the law, who disobeyed the law, physically died. That is what happened. The punishment was not being spiritually shunned like some modern protestants, or excommunicated like the catholics. Some...