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    julie green--who is she?

    Prophets in the Bible were not "predicters of the future," but rather folks used by God to relay His words to the people/Israelites in the Old Testament. They would relate direct and indirect quotes from God to His people, introducing such many times by saying, "Thus says the LORD," and/or by...
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    Israel is Babylon the Great!

    Ah yes... the conclusion... :) You might also just as well say "Since Jesus is Satan..." Which... I would recommend strongly against. :) Time after time throughout the Bible we are told that God's Israel, which will ultimately consist of true Jews (Romans 2:28-29) an innumerable multitude...
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    The Rapture is Post-trib

    Sure. Agreed. Well, I wholeheartedly agree that the flesh cannot save, and spiritual blindness must be removed by God. But the latter is a function/result of God's mercy and compassion, as Paul says in Romans 9:16. And God has mercy on whom He will, and compassion upon whom He will, as both...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Absolutely. Well, "factoring the ethnic Jewish dynamic in" correctly is the issue, here, Rebuilder, not whether it's done or not. When Paul says that, he's referring to how things were before the coming of Christ and how they are now after His coming. There was plenty of fore-shadowing from...
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    The Rapture is Post-trib

    Absolutely. Well, that's what we call them, but believing Jews. And in thus, they are grafted in again ~ as Paul says in Romans 11 ~ to God's Israel. Right, Jews by the letter, outward Jews ~ as Paul puts it in Romans 2:28. But before they become Messianic Jews, they are not in Christ and...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    No, combativeness to me is... being combative. :) Case in point. :) The frustration seems to be coming from you (and some others here), Rebuilder. And combativeness. Which is a result of which is unclear, but that's not important to sort out... :) LOL! No, he was in the boat ~ and, you...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Do you have someone in mind? Because... "posttribber"... that's not me... :) They do get some things right, though... :) Grace and peace to you.
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    The Rapture is Post-trib

    Oh, I do agree about your lacking things, but surely not in the way that you want me to. :) Do you want to start an argument about that, now? I don't care one iota (anymore) about your opinions of me. Yes, I'm well aware of that. :) Sure, you accept your own opinions, about everything, I...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    There is a lot of combativeness going on here in these conversations. We should all stay away from that, I say. We are, after all, brothers and sisters, at least supposedly... :) Grace and peace to all.
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    The Rapture is Post-trib

    I agree about your lacking some things. :) Grace and peace to you, Timtofly.
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    You think so, yes. And, to an extent, you did. But you went... above and beyond. :) :) Ah, getting combative on me. That's... regrettable. Hmmm... :) In Genesis 7 and 8, Rebuilder, that Noah and his family entered the ark (7:7), the animals followed (7:8-9), and the waters came (7:10)...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    I would encourage anyone to take a good concordance and do a word search on "firstfruits" and see what you come up with... With regard to our salvation and the resurrection to eternal life, Christ Himself (Who of course never was in need of salvation, but certainly accomplished it for us) is...
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    The Rapture is Post-trib

    So much talk and so little knowledge/understanding. But, knowledge, though, is a work/gift of the Spirit, and these things are spiritually discerned... Grace and peace to you, Timtofly.
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    The Rapture is Post-trib

    <chuckles> Satan is the deceiver... And the "them" will follow him... :) It is plain, I agree, buuuuuut... :) Grace and peace to you!
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    There's a partial hardening now on Israel, as we know (Romans 11). But there is no "separation" ~ there is no Jew or Greek/Gentile, but we are all one in Christ. And even in the midst of this tribulation, God is with us, Jesus as He said He would be at the end of Matthew 28, and of course the...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Thank you... No, the ark is a type, or shadow of Christ ~ it is representative of Christ, Whom we, having been born again of the Holy Spirit, and thus a new creation in Christ, are now in. We are no longer in Adam but in Christ. No one was removed from the flood, but some ~ Noah and his...
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    The Rapture is Post-trib

    Sure. Agreed. :) Grace and peace to you.
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    The Rapture is Post-trib

    You're misunderstanding me. I surely was not trying to be cryptic at all. I'll say it this way, sort of using your own words here: What's dangerous, Rebuilder, is knowing those components and taking a story/message from that story... what one thinks is that story/message within what is...
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    Israel is Babylon the Great!

    Well, Christ's church will ultimately include some of natural Israel, the physical, outward descendants of Abraham. In Romans 11, Paul is speaking to the Romans (obviously), who are included among the Gentiles. He calls them "wild olive shoots" who are "grafted in among the others and now...
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    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    "In those days," actually, from Revelation 10:7... So, very shortly after that last trump, upon the final Judgment which will follow the archangel's cry of command, the trumpet of God, Jesus's return, and the second resurrection ~ which is general to all and physical/bodily ~ all of which Paul...