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  1. Douggg

    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    My view is that the resurrection/rapture will take place before the beginning of the day of the Lord. I call my view "the anytime rapture view" - i.e. any time between right now and the day the Antichrist commits the transgression of desolation act described in 2Thessalonians2:4.
  2. Douggg

    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    That's not what it says in context of the three verses. The verse is talking about the resurrection of the dead of in Christ and the translation of the living in Christ, to go to heaven to live with Christ, while God's wrath will be taking place on earth. 9 For God hath not appointed us...
  3. Douggg

    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    Is verse 10 a resurrection/rapture event - but not pre-trib ?
  4. Douggg

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    Why would you subtract 7 from 2030 ? I think you mean that the fig tree generation would pass away by 2028. Therefore, I am pointing out to you that the 7 years would have had to begun in 2021. Which it did not. Because the 7 years begin following the Gog/Magog event. The 7 years of...
  5. Douggg

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    I am not declaring what year that Jesus rode into Jerusalem riding a donkey, hailed as the king of Israel messiah. I am going by the text of the four gospels as the basis for fulfillment for the arrival of the messiah and his being cutoff. 4 days between his arrival, hailed as the messian...
  6. Douggg

    End times time frames by chapter and fit

    Here are all the end times times frames in the bible by chapter in the order they appear in the first diagram. Then by fit in the second diagram.
  7. Douggg

    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    A) Great tribulation and the wrath of God are not the same thing. B) Great tribulation and the great wrath of satan are the same thing. The Great tribulation includes both the wrath of God and the wrath of Satan. C) The DOTL and great tribulation are not the same thing. D) The DOTL and the...
  8. Douggg

    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    No, I am not meaning the segments are "equal" in time duration. It is just that once started, the day of the Lord will have segments, one following the other, of different prophecy fulfillment, that ultimately the day of the Lord continues for eternity. The day of the Lord will have one...
  9. Douggg

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    Whether 30AD or 32AD, the important thing is that Jesus as the king of Israel messiah arrived in Jerusalem riding a donkey, hailed as such. And 4 days later was crucified on Passover eve, as the Lamb of God, and by Jesus's death on the cross our sins are atoned for. The 70th week remains...
  10. Douggg

    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    All of those issues can be resolved if a person realizes that the day of the Lord has segments to it.
  11. Douggg

    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    I don't see your point. After the great white throne judgement in Revelation 20, there is a new heaven and new earth in Revelation 21.
  12. Douggg

    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    Verse 12, the day of God, is the specific segment of the verse 10, the day of the Lord, when this present earth and its heaven will be destroyed. The day of the Lord has no end. Once started, there will be segments to it. Which one of these segments do you disagree with ? 1. The Antichrist...
  13. Douggg

    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    The day of God is when this present earth and its heavens will be destroyed. The day of God is one segment of the everlasting day of the Lord. The new heavens and a new earth of Revelation 21 will be after the GWT judgment.
  14. Douggg

    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    The post-trib (post-70th week) resurrection/rapture did not happen then. I am asking about how does the post-trib view hold comfort to anyone - knowing that they would have to go through the great tribulation, unmatched since the beginning of the world, nor will ever be again.
  15. Douggg

    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    The great tribulation will be a time of trouble that everyone dwelling on the earth at the time will experience during it. Limited in length, otherwise, all life on earth will be wiped out. Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to...
  16. Douggg

    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    How does the post-trib (post-70th week) view that the resurrection/rapture will take place on the day that Jesus's returns - provide comfort to anyone, knowing that they will have to go through the great tribulation ? 1Thessalonians4: 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so...
  17. Douggg

    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    So you are amil ? Also, you did not respond to whether 1Thessalonians5:10 is the resurrection/rapture or not. 9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. 11...
  18. Douggg

    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    The day of the Lord is not a single day. It has no ending to it.
  19. Douggg

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    No, I did not base anything in my post on calendar years. Jesus was cutoff 4 days after arriving in Jerusalem, riding a donkey, hailed as the king of Israel who comes in the name of the Lord in John 12:9-15. One of the reasons so many people believed him to be the king of Israel messiah was...
  20. Douggg

    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    The day of the Lord has segments to it. 2Peter3:10-12, speaks broadly that the day of the Lord begins like a thief in the night. The segment that deals with destruction of this current earth and its heavens is called the day of God in verse 12 (which you left out). In my post #36, I cited...