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Why, though? A person can be as respectful as can be, and still no one is going to change their mind about anything. You are a perfect example. You always remain respectful, but even so, not one single time have you managed to convince me you are right about the things I disagree with you about...

Meaning trumpet 1 and vial 1 are the same event. Trumpet 2 and vial 2 are the same event. So on and so on. Let's start with these 2 verses. Revelation 8:8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea...

Actually, I'm already aware that some interpret it like that. The problem is, great tribulation has zero to do with the day of the Lord. The day of the Lord follows great tribulation, not occurs during it. Therefore, you are adding to verse 2 something not found in it. Verse 2, the day of Christ...

2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man...

What's the reason for verse 12 being part of that context? Matthew 8:11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. 12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness...

Unless both are one and the same. I tend to think they might be. IOW, the man of sin equals those that fall away.

If you are meaning in the here and now, and spiritually, maybe that's true in your theological world but not in my theological world, the fact verse 12 below gives us the timing of this. Verse 12 involves being cast into the LOF. Every passage involving outer darkness, weeping and gnashing of...

You are missing his point. If someone has to travel from a compass direction to get there, that makes no sense unless the place they are trying to reach is geographically located somewhere. Is Jerusalem and the middle east geographically located somewhere?

Here's a question or two for Amils if they want to take it on. Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time...

I already suffer from low self esteem the way it is. And it is not helping when someone is telling me, no one understands what you are talking about. You make no sense. You think you are being logical but you are not. You're never logical about anything, you only think you are. Things like that...

I guess I wasn't aware of that.

I admit, what you bring up per the 7th trump does appear to be problematic for Premil. Not so much the 'there being time no more' part but the part about the mystery of God being finished. Can it be finished if there is still another 1000 years that follow? I don't know. I guess I need to think...

Excellent points you raised. Def worth looking into further.

We? You mean there is more than just you that argue against it? It's even worse than I imagined, because I already realized you argue against it. But I was kind of hoping you were the only person on the planet that did. That way there is only one person to try and convince they are wrong about...

Things I'm factoring in that you apparently are not, would be some of the following. For example, the animal kingdom. During the flood God preserved the animal kingdom. There was an ark built big enough to preserve them. How do you propose He preserves the animal kingdom this time around if you...

Exactly! And I don't see why some appear to argue against that. As if it makes sense that the kingdom remains in a hidden state forever.

Take death, for example. That would be something that is temporary and not forever. Meaning people don't keep dying forever. For example. It's a billion years later. No one is dying. It's a trillion years later. Still no one is dying. So on and so. I'm pretty sure I know the difference between...

FWIW, I understood you all along, in that regard. I have been around your type before and have been your type before. Nothing you said were fighting words. I get where you are coming from and why you said what you said. Some around here need to lighten up and not take everything so personal and...

Lately my thinking is this, right or wrong. IOW, maybe I'm right about some or all of this or maybe I'm not. It's what makes sense to me which might not make sense to someone else, though. It at least explains those in Matthew 16:28 if I'm on the right track here. Daniel 12:2 And many of them...

Matthew 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. What if we factor this in? This has Christ being seen coming in His kingdom, right? But we can't look at that verse in isolation. We at least...