Meaning trumpet 1 and vial 1 are the same event. Trumpet 2 and vial 2 are the same event. So on and so on.
Let's start with these 2 verses.
Revelation 8:8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;
Revelation 16:3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.
If these are the same event, when does the 2nd angel quit blowing his trumpet and then start pouring out his vial?
Revelation 8:2 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets
Where does it say in the text that to them were also given 7 vials? After all, vials have to be given to them first before they can pour them out. Obviously.
Revelation 16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.
Where does it say in the text that they are also to go out and blow their trumpets?
Between these trumpets and vials, how many angels should we assume it is involving? 7 or 14?
Revelation 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.
Notice something here. This is obviously meaning the time pertaining to not worshiping the beast and then being martyred for not worshiping it, that era of time has been fulfilled and is now in the past. IOW, there are no more martyrs ever again at this point in time. And guess what? Every single vial, all 7 of them, are poured out after Revelation 15:2 is meaning, not before Revelation 15:2 is meaning.
Let's now to go to Revelation 11, which is involving the 6th trumpet.
Revelation 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
Revelation 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
Does it look like Revelation 15:2 has already been fulfilled at this point, meaning as of the 6th trumpet, that there are no more martyrs? Keeping in mind that none of vials of wrath are poured out until there is first no more martyrs. IOW, during the vials of wrath and even after the vials of wrath, there is not one single martyr during any of that.
Yet, some would have us believe that the trumpets and vials are running in parallel when the 6th trumpet alone contradicts that since saints are still being martyred, where as, as of Revelation 15:2 no saints are being martyred anymore, and that none of the vials of wrath are being poured out before Revelation 15:2 is meaning. They are being poured out after Revelation 15:2 is meaning. Keeping in mind, Revelation 15:2 is undeniably meaning the martyring of saints have been fulfilled, no saint will ever be martyred again at this point in time.
Revelation 6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
IOW, as of Revelation 15:2, it equals this--their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled--that this has been fulfilled. Then the vials start getting poured out after that.
How can anyone dispute any of this and still insist the trumpets and vials are running in parallel?
My view is, it is during the 7th trumpet when any of the vials are being poured out. None of the vials of wrath precede the 7th trumpet. Which then means that the time of the 7th trumpet couldn't possibly involve a single 24 hour day or less, since there is no way 7 vials of wrath can fit a single 24 hour period. Nor can the 7th trumpet be involving the 42 month reign of the beast like some interpreters insist. And Revelation 15:2, for one, proves it if one was able to follow what I argued throughout, above.
Let's start with these 2 verses.
Revelation 8:8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;
Revelation 16:3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.
If these are the same event, when does the 2nd angel quit blowing his trumpet and then start pouring out his vial?
Revelation 8:2 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets
Where does it say in the text that to them were also given 7 vials? After all, vials have to be given to them first before they can pour them out. Obviously.
Revelation 16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.
Where does it say in the text that they are also to go out and blow their trumpets?
Between these trumpets and vials, how many angels should we assume it is involving? 7 or 14?
Revelation 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.
Notice something here. This is obviously meaning the time pertaining to not worshiping the beast and then being martyred for not worshiping it, that era of time has been fulfilled and is now in the past. IOW, there are no more martyrs ever again at this point in time. And guess what? Every single vial, all 7 of them, are poured out after Revelation 15:2 is meaning, not before Revelation 15:2 is meaning.
Let's now to go to Revelation 11, which is involving the 6th trumpet.
Revelation 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
Revelation 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
Does it look like Revelation 15:2 has already been fulfilled at this point, meaning as of the 6th trumpet, that there are no more martyrs? Keeping in mind that none of vials of wrath are poured out until there is first no more martyrs. IOW, during the vials of wrath and even after the vials of wrath, there is not one single martyr during any of that.
Yet, some would have us believe that the trumpets and vials are running in parallel when the 6th trumpet alone contradicts that since saints are still being martyred, where as, as of Revelation 15:2 no saints are being martyred anymore, and that none of the vials of wrath are being poured out before Revelation 15:2 is meaning. They are being poured out after Revelation 15:2 is meaning. Keeping in mind, Revelation 15:2 is undeniably meaning the martyring of saints have been fulfilled, no saint will ever be martyred again at this point in time.
Revelation 6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
IOW, as of Revelation 15:2, it equals this--their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled--that this has been fulfilled. Then the vials start getting poured out after that.
How can anyone dispute any of this and still insist the trumpets and vials are running in parallel?
My view is, it is during the 7th trumpet when any of the vials are being poured out. None of the vials of wrath precede the 7th trumpet. Which then means that the time of the 7th trumpet couldn't possibly involve a single 24 hour day or less, since there is no way 7 vials of wrath can fit a single 24 hour period. Nor can the 7th trumpet be involving the 42 month reign of the beast like some interpreters insist. And Revelation 15:2, for one, proves it if one was able to follow what I argued throughout, above.
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